Friday, July 15, 2011

More on an EU referendum

Following on from my recent post on why it is not yet time for an EU referendum, James Higham appears to have retracted his previous trenchant view on the matter—referencing Raedwald's similar post and counselling "let's wait".
Times change, the political landscape changes.

DK and I [as part of the Albion Alliance] fell out over this very issue in 2009, at a time when the referendum should have been put. The anti-Out forces were not nearly as well organized and Brown’s mess was fresh in everyone’s minds.

That was the time to do it, not at the end of Cameron’s first term. Three things altered that:
  1. Cameron didn’t get his majority;

  2. What Radders just described in this post has come about and they are much better organized now.

  3. The EU is falling apart and it’s the better strategy to let it now.

This third point is the critical one which tips the balance. If that were not so, then there would still be a cogent case for putting it—an ever-burgeoning juggernaut needs to be stopped somewhere along the line and needs be before it can even ride over piled up bodies of sceptics. However, that does not appear to be the case, the EU appears to have run its course and done its damage, as maybe the deeply cynical global socialists had planned for it to do anyway.

Either way, this is certainly not the time now.

The fact is that those of us who have watched and monitored the colossal amounts of cash being funnelled to pro-EU votes in various countries—not to mention the referendum being re-run in Ireland—knew that the British people simply don't yet understand the sheer scale of the EU's effects on their lives.

Every time that there seems to be some kind of movement against the EU, we see the practice arguments wheeled out: headlines such as "3m jobs 'dependent on the EU'" (lies though they are) are always going to give people pause for thought—and especially at the current time.

But even were we not in recession, these kinds of headlines are likely to turn the current slim rebellion into a vote for remaining within the EU. Things are going to have to get a lot worse before the British public says, "we don't give a fuck. Things are now so bad that we'll take our chances."

That point is slightly nearer than it was. But, then again, perhaps the whole thing will implode before we even need to vote.

In which case, we need to vote for withdrawal far more urgently: this country's reputation would be seriously damaged if it was still part of the EU when it collapses...


WitteringsfromWitney said...

I have long thought that a referendum would be lost due to the unlevel playing field that would result. It amazes me that the pro-referendum group have not thought this through. Only a fool starts a fight without knowing the oppositions strength????

On the other hand, we do need a referendum if only to see how the polies would wriggle out of accepting the people's will - so we have a bit of an conundrum.....

Also while the polies control the press - which they do - people's vogting habits will be hard to change. Having said that if only Ukip would get their act together.........

Intend tackling NF on just this subject when he's in Witney next Tuesday for a talk.......

Anonymous said...

It is indeed, an exciting concept, that of the uncontrollable juggernaut, out of control, doomed to crash in a most catastrophic manner, to the pain and discomfort of all aboard.
That is the Hollywood version (funny how shorthand expressions seem to invent themselves, isn’t it?).
However, in real life, modern juggernauts, which, by jingo, the EU is a good example of, are equipped with brakes. Good, solid, immensely reliable brakes, practically unbreakable (sorry about the pun, folks!).
And as well, Modern Europe is exceedingly safety conscious, such that, for instance, in a motorway near to me, on an enticingly steep incline, there are no less than four juggernaut safety escape lanes, paved with deep gravel, into which heavy lorries can, and often do, sink down to their axles, before safely stopping.
“Ah-Hah”, I hear you say, “...but what about a Juggernaut running amok in a tunnel? Just think on the damage there!”.
Not so Son, the EU in their wisdom have edicted that all tunnels of a certain length must have escape access across into the adjacent tunnel (for normally there are two tunnels, one going to there, and one coming back from there).
I’m sorry, Mr Wittering, they are a cunning lot, you will have to think of a plan “B”.
Good luck.
You will need every gramme of it.

low resolution fox said...

Any opinions on the Norwegian event? Particularly about his stated aim of "wiping out the multi-culturalist marxist traitors"!

Crikey they're not holding back on the details of this one.

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