Sunday, June 29, 2008

The police state again

A former soldier, Frank McCourt, has been charged after making a citizen's arrest.
When Mr McCourt, of Crawley, West Sussex, was confronted by youths hurling stones and threatening his wife, he thought he was within his rights to make a citizen's arrest. Instead, police arrested the 56-year-old on suspicion of kidnapping. They treated the youths as traumatised witnesses.

They put Mr McCourt in a cell and charged him with assault. They let him live for months with the threat of a jail sentence until—after the intervention of a local MP—the Crown Prosecution Service decided that taking Mr McCourt to trial was "not in the public interest".

Sitting in a front room full of family photographs and his wife's ceramic ornaments, Mr McCourt has his freedom but, he says, "a little bit of me has been destroyed forever – the bit that believed in British justice, that thought I would get help when I needed it, instead of being betrayed."

Please do go and read the whole article: it is a shameful tale. If I were the parents of the children involved, I would be ashamed to show my face in public; if I were the children themselves, I would go and drown myself in a fucking bucket before someone did it to me.

And if I were the police officers involved, I would go and hang myself in the public square with a big placard around my neck, saying...
"I am a total fucking cunt. Please throw dogshit at my hanging body and let the crows peck out my eyes. Then dismember my body and bury the various bits in unconsecrated ground near the crossroads. Then piss on the graves and take a dump in my skull. I am a total fucking shit and I don't deserve to live."

Tom Paine has a rather more reasonable take on the whole affair.
The linked story illustrates poignantly what has happened to our nation under Labour. There was a time when youths would have feared to act in such a way, because the local community would have dealt with them and the police would have exercised common sense. Common sense in this case would have rejected the allegation of kidnapping, which was clearly part of a malicious campaign. But "by the book" bureaucratic Britain requires that common sense is not applied. The allegation was made and must therefore be given credence. Worse, the bureaucracy incentivises the police to pick low-hanging fruit and win a quick statistic, rather than actually tackle the crime that makes many parts of the country unliveable.

Mr McCourt did his country as much service here as he did when he served as a soldier. He is patently a good man; the sort any country should be happy to have as a citizen. He is even - amazingly—still willing to fight, saying he would do the same thing again. His wife's reaction is more typical—and heart-rendingly sad
"If I had to go through that again," says Mrs McCourt, "I would walk out. I back Frank, but I just couldn't face it again." Forlornly, she eyes her home. "We have been left defenceless."

Who can blame her? The state is not there to direct peoples' lives. It is there to provide a framework of law within which they can direct their own. It is also there to protect citizens from criminals who interfere with their ability to do so. In this story, as in so many, it has done precisely the opposite. It has done so under the direction, and with the approval, of the Labour government.

And let us be quite clear: the police have willingly colluded with this attitude. In return for a few more lots of silver pennies and more power to harass those whom they are supposed to protect, they have sold their soul to the politicians.

And since politicians are unredeemably evil, so they have corrupted the—hardly previously spotless—police. So, let me remind any officers, who might be reading this post, of your founder's vision for what you should be: I give you the Peelian Principles.
  1. The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.

  2. The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon the public approval of police actions.

  3. Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observation of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public.

  4. The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.

  5. Police seek and preserve public favor not by catering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law.

  6. Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice, and warning is found to be insufficient.

  7. Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

  8. Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions, and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.

  9. The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.

There are decent policemen out there (I know one or two) but the force as a whole has become corrupted—it has become a tool for politicians in a party political point-scoring process.

We must remove the police from political control: politicians seek power over their fellow man and are thus unsaveable from their quintessential evil. The police should serve the people and uphold the law: these two ideas are incompatible with being political stooges.

Unfortunately, the stupid and lazy who make up the majority of the denizens of this country—those who want security above freedom—continue either to elect authoritarian governments or to care nothing about the process. And the rest of us suffer as a result of their apathy and greed.

Who is John Galt?


Roberto Brian Sarrionandia said...

I am John Galt, DK, and you know it!


Roger Thornhill said...

The CPS, Police, PCSO individuals etc should be named and shamed. I am serious.

We need a website with all the dysfunctional lickspittles that now infest our public services.

The rot starts from the head. The rot is the Government, the Home Office. If you want to fix the police, you need to fix that. The only way is for a Libertarian government to be voted in IMHO.

Anonymous said...

In my area, many of us know to be extra careful towards the end of the month.

Don't drop anything that could be construed as litter, no sneaky smokes at (or even near) bus stops, motorists stay well under the speed limit, everyone stays well clear of any of those hideous freaks of birth that pass for children these days... and so on.

There are quotas, and if those quotas are low this month they won't be filled by chasing burglars, they'll filled by litter-fines for flicking ash off your cigarette.

Nobody trusts the police any more, I'm afraid, and it's going to take a lot of work to put that trust back. I won't be at all surprised to find those Neighbourhood Watch groups turning into Wild West vigilantes soon.

Of course, the police will be quick enough to deal with anything like that. Can't have criminals impeded in the performance of their professional duties, after all.

Under Labour, they have rights.

Anonymous said...

As a serving Police Officer I read about this and despaired frankly.Of course Mr McCourt was on shakey legal grounds in making what he thought was a "citizens arrest", but his heart was in the right place and he plainly wasn't guilty of kidnap for Christ's sake! Unfortunately the target culture introduced by the present Governnment has led to the demise of the use of discretion amongst most police constables nowadays so they tend to play safe so that,to use a phrase now regrettably common in the Police, they "can't be critisized" for what they do or decisions they take.This has led of course to the loss of one of the great glories of the British police,common sense and the frequent exercise thereof.Is there anything in this country that this Nu Labour shower haven't cocked up?

Anonymous said...

"As a serving Police Officer I read about this and despaired frankly."

You have a warrant card. March into the Home Office and arrest the dizzy bint Ms. Smith, on suspicion of causing alarm, harassment or distress. I'm certainly alarmed by what's going on.

Fidothedog said...

Zey police vere only following ze orders....

Matt Jarvis said...

I worked with some 'old school' police officers. You know the ones. 6 foot plus with a big moustache, and some common sense. One spoke at length about the ancient sacred post of Constable. He said that as a constable his job was to report facts. The constable does not prosecute or make judgements on the law. He is totally independent and should not follow orders from the Chief constable, a judge or Home secretary if he believes them to be illegal. From wiki - "He has record as to matters of fact, not matters of judgment and law".
ie They use common sense to keep order and report facts.
He had worries about the government interfering with the appointment of Chief Constables on political lines. Also community support officers, or blunketts blackshirts, as they were employed by the home office and took orders from them, not the independent Police. He told me that although assured by the government that CSOs would not carry weapons he thought it would happen - And it has. He felt that the role of constable was being undermined from being an independent keeper of order to a government lackey. He told me he had only drawn his truncheon twice in his 30 years of service.

Anonymous said...

"..the stupid and lazy... who want security above freedom..."

Yes, it's a moot point whether they're more stupid for wanting security above freedom or because they believe that HMG's curtailment of freedoms result in greater security.

Still, it's encouraging that a police officer has commented that he, too, despairs. Hope that there are many more like him who would breathe a sigh of relief if a government-in-waiting were to pledge to get rid of targets.

Is it too naive to hope that the yuman rights act might be repealed?


Old Holborn said...

So let me get this right. A wierdo grabs your kid off the street on a council estate and bundles him/her into his fetid house.

When you race round there to find out WTF is going on, he says they've been throwing stones and he didn't ring the Police, he rang an Asbo advice line. Oh, and you can't have your child back, he intends to keep hold of him/her.

I advise my kids to stay well clear of ex squaddies for a good reason - they are psychos. If I heard on the jungle telegraph that one had grabbed one of my daughters into his house, he'd be looking down the wrong end of a shotgun pretty quick.

Read it again from a differnet angle

""I didn't ring 999," he says, "because I didn't think it was a big enough incident. I didn't want to upset the emergency services."

Instead, he tried phoning the antisocial behaviour "hotline" number he found in a council leaflet. "It just rang for 45 minutes. No answer, no hold music, no Greensleeves."

At about 6.45pm, Mr McCourt made his fateful decision. Exploiting a lull, he slipped out of his house and round the corner. "The two 10 year-olds were beating a waste bin with sticks. I got one of them by the front of his shirt. I didn't hurt him. I just told him, 'You are under citizen's arrest'."

He marched the swearing youngster back to his house. "I told him: 'I am not going to harm you, but I want to contact your family and the police.' He said he was asthmatic and asked for an aspirin. Of course I fetched a tablet."

The boy's friend summoned a relative, who phoned the police. There was just time for the young detainee's mother to arrive. "I offered to explain, but she was swearing as badly as her son, so I let him go. He walked to his mother calling me an effing C." Then two police officers arrived. "

Sorry, anyone dragging kids into his house off the street and NOT calling the Police to discuss the matter needs looking at very, vert hard indeed.

At no point did the ex squaddie actually ring the police. Not before, not during and not after. A relative of the other boy did.

So what exactly WAS he up to that the Police and the kids parents were not called after all, but the child was not released until the filth turned up?

Dirty bastard

Old Holborn said...

Remember Shannon Matthews? Remember Holly and Jessica?

Don't believe a fucking word of his story.

He will already have banked his cash from the Telegraph et al and we only have his word that he wasn't just out grooming ten year old boys.

EVERYONE who lives in creepy Crawley is a certifiable nutjob.

Anonymous said...

Any policeman reading this should solemnly remember the Nuremberg precedent - to say that you were following orders is no defence in a court of law. You are paid to uphold the rule of law! Not to goosestep in tandem with a wantonly criminal and brazenly treasonous government who are openly destroying our freedom under English common law. You are paid to keep the peace and uphold the rule of law! You are instead causing alarm and distress, destroying the rule of law and ushering in the tyrannical rule of men (and women). That is not only a gross dereliction of duty, it is treason. You might think this is hyperbole. It is not. I am a legal professional, working within the academic legal establishment, and even I now hate the police with a passion I never thought I'd feel. You are driving us to civil war you treasonous pigdogs, and no amount of black kevlar flak jackets or cans of mace will protect you when the people of England give voice to our displeasure. We outnumber you considerably and you will not win. If you are lucky you will get away with dancing the Tyburn gig. (While children dance at your feet... etc..)

Anonymous said...

In my parish the justice of a motor cycle gang is most effective.

flyingrodent said...

DK, can I suggest that you keep this "every man allowed to drag 10-year-olds into his house and keep them there without phoning the cops" proposal off the Libertarian Party's list of manifesto pledges?

Because you know, that might not pan out the way these commenters think it will.

Probably best to cut the British Laziness and Stupidity Bill as well, now I come to think of it.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 29/06 06:20

Unfortunately the target culture introduced by the present Governnment has led to the demise of the use of discretion amongst most police constables nowadays so they tend to play safe so that,to use a phrase now regrettably common in the Police, they "can't be critisized" for what they do or decisions they take.

Actually we can, as the Chief constable of the area (Sussex) was making noises about disregarding targets and concentrating on what ordinary folk were actually concerned with (see the story on house of dumb)

Also Old holborn's comments are just fucking incredible. As in, 'incredibly unhinged'. 'If you tackle little yobs you're probably a paedophile hurrr!'

Anonymous said...

Until we have elected Chief Constables, the police will remain the armed wing of the government. Make them answerable to us, and the stupidity will disappear like magic.

Anonymous said...

Chief Constables and other top police officers are now overwhelmingly social science graduates, not actual coppers. Their "world view" is about as far away from the old fashioned, common sense view of common law as it is possible to get. As someone said above, the rot starts from the top.

Also, I question the reference to 'anti-social behaviour' in the report. Making threats to kill someone or their dogs is not 'anti-social behaviour'. Did the police investigate these allegations?

Note also that the police only acted when contacted by their MP and when the case was publicised. This is a text-book example of the modern police force - they respond to force from higher up and the fear of adverse publicity. In fact, for modern Chief Constables, adverse publicity in the liberal media is the worst thing possible. So, mere moments after the story broke, the unctious bastards were grovelling. Don't bet on the same travesty happening again though.

There was a time when only criminals and lefty twats distrusted the police. Sadly, not any more.

Old Holborn said...

'If you tackle little yobs you're probably a paedophile hurrr!'

This man didn't tackle little yobs. He didn't call the police. Instead, he grabbed a ten year old boy and dragged him into his house. When the Police finally turned up after being alerted not by him but a relative he was holding the boy hostage.

Sorry mate, that doesn't sound like a concerned citizen exercising his rights. That sounds like an ex army nutter, living on a council estate bullying (or worse) ten year old kids, then holding his hands up and saying "me rights! You coudn't make it up!" to every newspaper with a chequebook.

And you lot fell for it!

Kidnapping children is quite anti Libertarian I would have thought. Yet it appears here that many endorse it. Maybe I'm in the wrong gang, maybe you believe that anybody can go around dishing out whatever justice they see fit to children without redress. I don't. He should have called the Police. He didn't. End of argument. Anything else is just bullying, vigilanty posturing or downright nastiness. If my kids are throwing stones, I expect a call from the victim or the little scroates delivered back by my friendly local bobby with a clip round the ear. I do not expect to have to go and rescue them from some loons house who is holding them hostage.

Anonymous said...

I'm the PC who posted above as "Anonymous" at 6:20 yesterday,I'm also, like many of my colleagues, an ex-serviceman (24yrs in the infantry since you ask)I'm not a "psycho", nor an "ex-army nutter" as the poster above seems to think, neither are any of my friends and colleagues. Given the intemperate, ludicrous and completely deranged nature of your posts Old Holborn,I don't think that you have anything sensible to contribute to this or any other subject so a period of silence and reflection on your part would be welcome. There are some sites on the web where I'm sure you'd be happy however.

Anonymous said...

So you were in the army for 24 years and now you're a copper?

What next? Security guard in Tesco's? Nightwatchman in an City office block?

The public has a deep, deep suspicion of the Police. For a very, very good reason. Well millions of them actually. Maybe that's why our Jock pyscho squaddie didn't ring you lot. Still, you've got his DNA now so I'm expecting all sorts of rapes to be cleared up before drinkies at the Lodge on Friday.

A lifelong instrument of the State yourself yet you want to silence OH. He will be flattered, I'm sure.

Oh look what you lot are up to!

Off you go, take some doughnuts

Anonymous said...

Oh no, we want to silence OH and not have to put up with his psychotic episode! To him I say - I read the story. The 10 year old he got hold of and whom you are trying to portray as an innocent little angel was part of the pack who'd be harassing him for weeks and who was one of the ones who threatened his wife, as he was well aware of. That makes you full of shit and a complete psycho to boot, fancy wanting to side with a bunch of little savages.

Oh yeah, are enochsghost and OH the same person? Does OH feel the need to pose as other people because he wants to pretend that people are backing him up? I think so!

Old Holborn said...

Huh? What?

Lock up whovever you please. From 6year olds that ZNL have identified as "potential threats" (and fingerprinted) to non council tax rise paying pensioners, it still has little to do with Libertarianism.

The Daily Mail or the Torygraph are hardly the people I want reporting their version of the news (non partisan of course).

When is the trail for the Dewsbury debacle on again?

If ten year olds give me grief, I find out where they live, have a word (I can just imagine what a Scotch ex army guy would say) with the parents, if that doesn't work, I (through a third party) mention it to the filth.

If that fails, fill the little cunts pockets with weed, gay porn and stolen mars bars, run over his BMX and tell all his mates he's actually a girl called Chardonnay and his now absent father was Welsh.

Kidnapping ten year old boys to get revenge indeed. After years in the Army. Pffuff.

Anonymous said...

You can shut up now, troll.

Anonymous said...

"Actually we can, as the Chief constable of the area (Sussex) was making noises about disregarding targets and concentrating on what ordinary folk were actually concerned with (see the story on house of dumb)"

Get back to us when he does more than 'make noises'....

Little Black Sambo said...

The police are deliberately being turned into a national gendarmerie, hanging about looking intimidating, festooned with sinister-looking equipment and wearing body armour, even in rural country towns. What have we come to?

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