Monday, April 07, 2008

What has Boris been smoking?

Boris has obviously not been smoking the liberal weed because, as Iain Dale reports, he seems to be on his ban-wagon again.
“London has a higher rate of alcohol-related crimes than any other region in England and I have been told time and again that people are scared of taking the Underground late at night because of aggressive behaviour by drunken yobs. Too many people find themselves forced to sit opposite someone swigging from a can of lager and engaging in behaviour that is intimidating or worse. I want everyone’s journeys to be safer and more pleasant"

And Iain does seem to approve.
As a liberal Conservative I instinctively recoil from banning things. However, is it liberal to allow tube users to be abused by drunken louts? No, definitely not. I think this policy will be welcomed by many as long as it is policed properly.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Is it liberal to allow anyone to be abused by drunken louts? Shouldn't we therefore ban alcohol entirely?

And "this policy will be welcomed by many as long as it is policed properly"? If the drunk and disorderly laws were being policed properly, then the drunken louts would not be on the Tube in the first place.

I mean, how many people get pissed whilst actually on the Tube?


Mark Wadsworth said...

I find having that first can of lager on the way home on the Tube makes the journey far more pleasant while I plough through the papers with my iPod on.

Anonymous said...

People don't get pissed on the Tube, but they are quite happy to keep drinking and behaving like pricks.

Chris Gilmour said...

Its probably a lot easier and cheaper to just ban drinking on the tube than it is to persuade the police to apply drunk and disorderly laws. Better value for money and all that.

We're still allowed to drink on the bendy buses right?

The Nameless Libertarian said...

I have got pissed on the tube. Not proud of the fact, mind... Still, hopefully I wasn't a drunken lout...

Anonymous said...

Absolutely agree with the mayor to be on this one.

I /AM/ a libertarian but that doesn't mean I think everyone should be allowed to do anything anywhere. Do what you want - unless it affects others.

Drunken asshats on public transport are one reason a lot of us won't use it. In Amsterdam (and I presume the whole of the Netherlands) - one of the most liberal countries in the world, consumption of alcohol is banned on public transport, and public transport is several orders of magnitude more pleasant than it is in this country. (Not only as a result of this I concede, but it helps).


Mark Wadsworth said...

If they ban people who are drunk from using the Tube, they might as well shut down the whole service after about 8 pm.

Having been attacked by people who were stone cold sober, I just don't see what they are getting at. Banning hoodies would be much more sensible.

Anonymous said...

I like a drink. When using the tube I find it helps to drink more. I am never nasty but know some that are. Maybe, like on Sunday, the police could escort sober and frightened members of the public across London in a running phalanx.

So glad to see the flame survived and even managed to have a lunch break. Am I mad or is everyone else? DK excepted of course.

Question to self, has this country gone to the dogs or are our politicians assuming we share a similar IQ to that of man's bestest friend? Mr Brown says not to panic, stabilty, low inflation. Straight up, his dad told him so. My dad never told me things like that, just get your hair cut and find a proper job.

That Konnie Huq will be the next Labour leader, mark my words. Dead against China anexing and brutalising the Tibetans and the Chinese ordinary people, so decides to run the fucking-

Anyway, my stop, same time, same tube, Love you all.

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