Sunday, February 03, 2008

Marrying illegality with benefits

Via The Gates of Vienna, it seems that the entire world has gone absolutely fucking insane. Or maybe it's just our government, who knows?

In a normal country, if someone has broken the law then we would prosecute them for it; in Britain, however, we decide to pay them extra benefits.
Husbands with multiple wives have been given the go-ahead to claim extra welfare benefits following a year-long Government review, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.

Even though bigamy is a crime in Britain, the decision by ministers means that polygamous marriages can now be recognised formally by the state, so long as the weddings took place in countries where the arrangement is legal.

The outcome will chiefly benefit Muslim men with more than one wife, as is permitted under Islamic law. Ministers estimate that up to a thousand polygamous partnerships exist in Britain, although they admit there is no exact record.

OK, bigamy is a crime in this country, right. Now, we have to accept that we have Muslims coming to this country—mainly because their insane fucking Muslim rulers have made their own countries into such stinking illiberal shitholes that anyone who can leave, does—and they bring multiple brides with them. Fair enough.

Now, irrespective of what these other countries allow, bigamy—and let me repeat this—is illegal in this country. But, faced with such a dilemma, one might conclude that the correct response might be effectively to turn a blind eye.

You don't encourage this—and I'll say it again—illegal behaviour by paying them extra fucking benefits.
New guidelines on income support from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) state: "Where there is a valid polygamous marriage the claimant and one spouse will be paid the couple rate ... The amount payable for each additional spouse is presently £33.65."

Income support for all of the wives may be paid directly into the husband's bank account, if the family so choose. Under the deal agreed by ministers, a husband with multiple wives may also be eligible for additional housing benefit and council tax benefit to reflect the larger property needed for his family.

Wait a minute? There is no such thing as a valid polygamous marriage in this country, you arseholes: bigamy, or polygamy, is illegal.
The ruling could cost taxpayers millions of pounds. Ministers launched a review of the benefit rules for polygamous marriages in November 2006, after it emerged that some families had benefited financially.

The review concluded in December last year with agreement that the extra benefits should continue to be paid, the Government admitted. The decision was not publicly announced.

Not publically announced, eh? I wonder why not. Oh, wait; could it be because it is a fucking stupid idea?
Four departments - the Treasury, the DWP, HM Revenue and Customs, and the Home Office - were involved in the review, which concluded that recognising multiple marriages conducted overseas was "the best possible" option. In Britain, bigamy is punishable by up to seven years in prison.

Unless, of course, you are a Muslim. In which case, this government will quite happily pay you for breaking the law.

Now, one can argue that the government should have no jurisdiction over marriage which is, or should be, a private contract between two people. However, if that is to be the case, then there should be no special benefits for marriage of any kind.

Whilst married people do get special benefits and tax breaks, however, the government is entitled to set what laws it wants (it's all part of being in hock to the state, y'see) and in this country bigamy is still fucking illegal.

Seriously, what the fuck is going on?


Thud said...

this whole set up puzzles me....somebody is going to get fucked over for making this decision...well I truly hope so anyway.

Anonymous said...

Presumably there are other tax benefits too? Like no inheritance tax between spouses, and capital gains tax deferral?

The Sage of Muswell Hill said...

Presumably I can now go to some Muslim shithole (TM - Devil's Kitchen 2007), convert to Islam (takes about 15 seconds), get "married" to 3 young - or not so young - ladies, come back here and make my extra claim in triplicate - directly into my bank account if you please. Easy! Any objections from the government - not that there'll be any, they'll be falling all over me to shovel money (TM - P Toynbee 2007) in my direction - would be evidence of racism or, at least, a breach of my human rights to a "family life" (TM - Learco Chindamo 2007).

Actually, why bother to go through the hassle? Why not just claim? Based on the past form of those in control of taxpayers' money, anyone claiming these particular benefits will be awarded a free pass and an immediate "get out of jail free" card so it's unlikely anyone will investigate.

Anonymous said...

Umbongo has it, it's just more pandering to the muslim invasion of Britain.

"Best keep them happy or they'll blow us all to hell."


El Draque said...

Timmy has pointed out that Muslims are not supposed to have more than one wife if they can't afford to keep them - so they should not be claiming benefit at all.

Also it's a common modern Muslim view (or so I was told by a Muslim) that more than one wife is not permitted unless you can promise to treat them both equally. And only the prophet was capable of that, it is said (though I heard he had a favourite). Most people shouldn't try.
wait for the first bigamy case - someone will appeal to this as a precedent.

Roger Thornhill said...

Insane moonbattery is the fact of it.

I want to know what imbecile actually thinks this is "the best possible" and why should we CARE about funding bigamous marriages?

Note it includes housing, what, an extra bedroom for each wifey? How soon before we will see all the 6 and 7 bed houses bought by the State to satisfy the housing arrangements of people wed overseas?

I want to know who even thought this problem even needed to be addressed! Who was lobbying them?


Anonymous said...

A telling article from 7 years ago:

"Noshaba Hussein says that if the government refuses to accept the legality of polygamous marriages then the Muslim parliament will take it to the European court of human rights."

Yeah whatever...

"Noshaba Hussein warns that if the government continues to overlook their demands they could end up losing ethnic minority votes."


"Muslims are very strong supporters of the Labour government,' she says.

Alright, alright you can have it!

"So far I think we've been getting a relatively rough deal and maybe it will be reflected in the polls."

Look, how about benefits? Housing, tax breaks, the works. Alright?

The wonder is why it took New Labour so long to appease these stone-age bully boys.

Tomrat said...

How much longer will be it before police overlook assaults on jews by muslims on the basis of islamic tenets on a legallised footing? And how much longer for the rest of us Kuffar? This is truly insane.

Anonymous said...

We will be starting to create a haven for those we declare criminal here, whereas in their homeland their acts are considered normal.

Mind bogglingly stupid!

Anonymous said...

Israel had the same problem with Ethiopian Jews, some of which had up to 7 wives because Judaism doesnt put a limit on the number of wives.

Anonymous said...

Just got reading this post and thought I'd bring up a few things....

Ok, if someone from Britain gets married overseas then that marriage is recognised as legal if someone has entered into a polygamous wedding abroad in a country where this is legal then that would be recognised here too.

Bigamy is only an offence if you do it IN THIS COUNTRY.

The outrage only really applies IF the very small number of these "families" come here and then claim benefit. There is no provision for the fact that these could well be "families" where all, most, some of them work.

The outrage about the huge amounts spent on Benefit in this country could be better applied to children in families with massive incomes who receive the same amount of Child Benefit as children in non-working households.

While some on Incapacity Benefit MAY technically be able to work in reality their conditions may make them unattractive as potential employees esp. in cases of mental illness.

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