Monday, February 04, 2008

"I like being dirty," say Muslim doctors

It seems that some female Muslims are refusing to wash themselves in the prescribed manner.
Muslim medical students are refusing to obey hygiene rules brought in to stop the spread of deadly superbugs, because they say it is against their religion.

I also believe that harming yourself or others is also against your religion (depending which part of the text you take), so deal with that, you fucking idiots.
Women training in several hospitals in England have raised objections to removing their arm coverings in theatre and to rolling up their sleeves when washing their hands, because it is regarded as immodest in Islam.

In that case, I really don't see the problem. Look, it's really simple: last year, at the height of the MTAS crisis, we had 22,000 places for 30,000 students. Any student that refuses to wash themselves properly, for the care of their patients, gets no job.

I find it difficult to believe that there are more than 6,000 lunatic fucking Muslims in the medical student population. Oh, and fuck your religion: people's health comes first.

I believe that medics are required to take the Hippocratic Oath, the substance of which is that one should do no harm. If you don't wash, you will spread disease and therefore do harm. In this case, fuck your modesty and fuck your religion.
Universities and NHS trusts fear many more will refuse to co-operate with new Department of Health guidance, introduced this month, which stipulates that all doctors must be "bare below the elbow".

In that case, hospitals must not employ these people.
Minutes of a clinical academics' meeting at Liverpool University revealed that female Muslim students at Alder Hey children's hospital had objected to rolling up their sleeves to wear gowns.

Similar concerns have been raised at Leicester University. Minutes from a medical school committee said that "a number of Muslim females had difficulty in complying with the procedures to roll up sleeves to the elbow for appropriate handwashing".

Sheffield University also reported a case of a Muslim medic who refused to "scrub" as this left her forearms exposed.

Documents from Birmingham University reveal that some students would prefer to quit the course rather than expose their arms, and warn that it could leave trusts open to legal action.

Good, let them quit the course. I have no problem with that, whatsoever. If you are not prepared to take measures that might prevent people being made unnecessarily ill (possibly fatally) then you should not be a dcotor. Go fuck yourself.

As for legal action: don't make me fucking laugh. If you will not comply with the terms of the job, fuck you. These are people's lives at stake so, I say again, fuck you and fuck your religion. And, doubly, fuck any court that orders pay-outs to these arseholes, and fuck any hospital or medical school that capitulates and pays compensation.

What really irritates the fucking cunt out of me is this: if these damn female Muslims were living in a fucking strict Muslim country, then they would almost certainly not even be allowed to study medicine (or vote. Or drive a car. Or, indeed, stir out of the house without their husband's say-so).

So, here it is: fuck you, Muslim ladies. You either comply or you bugger off. Your choice; no compromises.


old and angry said...

I couldn't have said it better myself!

randian said...

Islam has no objection to harming others, only harming Muslims. I suggest you read what the various Muslim medical associations have offered as a replacement for the Hippocratic Oath. It's scary.

Wrinkled Weasel said...

Well said.

Henry North London 2.0 said...

It gets better and better


I am fed up of the muslims making my life difficult cos when they see me a brown face they automatically think me a muslim

Which Im not So fuck off

JuliaM said...

"Islam has no objection to harming others, only harming Muslims."

Well, they are breaking that one left, right and centre then!

Anonymous said...

I agree with DK that the solution is obvious - you don't agree with the rules, fine, but you'll never work in a UK hospital ever again.

Anonymous said...

Can't agree with you more DK, but they will still get their way.

Fairness & common sense is long gone in this country

Anonymous said...

I am sick to fucking death of muslims getting preferential treatment at every turn, vis the earlier story about muslim bigamists and it goes on and on. But there's no point blaming them - if I were a muslim I'd fill my boots at the expense of the docile, bovine indiginous too - the blame lies with government at all levels and its fellow travellers that infest our media and once great institutions. They're the ones I'd herd naked through every high street with cattle prods while we don the marigolds and pelt them with shit and rotting offal.

Roger Thornhill said...

I don't think it is so much "Muslim" as "Islamist". Many Muslim women left countries to escape such moonbattery!

But I totally agree with your point. They should just not bother trying to be a doctor or any kind of medical practitioner if it is against their "beliefs".

However, given that our country is riddled with self-loathers and fifth columnists, I can see a legal challenge being mounted and going a long way, when actually it should be thrown out at the first instance as a nuisance...and the lawyers banged up for wasting court time. I bet it will be paid via legal aid, too.

I think they will next ask for women only educational facilities, then to treat women only, for how could they possibly treat a "strange male"?, and thus it means setting up special Muslim Women health units... Thin end of the wedge, I say.

Pogo said...

DK says: "Good, let them quit the course."

I disagree, strongly... They shouldn't be "allowed to quit" they should be fucking sacked!

But they won't be... This country really does have the inmates running the asylum.

Anonymous said...

Face it chaps if a muslim 'cleric' says adherents to this 'religion' must face the moon and shit five times on the ward floor they will get their way.

If one of these 'ladees' is fired or even reprimanded for failing to keep to the required hygiene standards Mrs Blair (sorry Booth) and a horde of 'uman rights' lawyers will be at the hospital gates in five minutes.

Anonymous said...

This is stupid, even muslim girls in muslim country like malaysia don't pull that kind of bollocks.But then again malaysia is a bit more liberal.The religious establishment here has a teeny bit more common sense (not that much actually) than those Nulabour fuck ups. Stupid fucking wahhabis and their stupid fucking beliefs, fucking up peoples lives wherever they go...

Anonymous said...

"Asians??" Even the fucking media is frightened to actually identify them as Muslims.

They're shitting all over your country. Do something. PLEASE.

Henry North London 2.0 said...

There is one particularly cautionary tale to tell

When India was partitioned the Muslims were thrown out of most states in Northern India with the prime exception of Uttar Pradesh. Then they were a minority 60 years ago

Now they are the majority because they do not have birth control and they all vote

Within 60 to 100 years this will be a Islamic state.

You cant stop it either.

I have one aim in life and that is to emigrate to a decent country south of the equator

Yes it may be that the services are not so good, that there is no CCTV and that everyone speaks Spanish or Afrikaans or some other lovely tongue but I will be safe from the Mosque and I will not have to listen to Azaan breaks on television.

I can then be at peace and live happily with a shotgun in the cupboard and a revolver for personal protection

John Trenchard said...

there's quite a simple explanation for this.

it's MRSA jihad.

it's much much easier to kill the infidels that way, than with bombs.

and it obviously doesn't attract as much MI5 attention as a truckload of ferliser explosive.

Anonymous said...

Well, one solution would be to amputate their arms at the elbow! Then no one could see them!

OR, we could expand the definition of 'wrist' all the way up to the elbow!

I know this isn't a perfect solution, but we do need to entertain more creative thinking for these aggressive muslim troublemakers.

Also, I would like to know the exact quote from the koran, if that's not too much trouble, where it specifies that women cannot reveal their forearms. Or a surah will do.

Why do I ask?

Because I suspect it is in the same phantom sentence that mandates bints wear niqabs. All these muslim bints who say it's against their religion (cult) to go outside their house without a niqab are lying or have been misinformated by an ignorant imam.

There is no such injunction in the koran. Anywhere.

All it says is mohammad said that women should "dress modestly", and no one would take exception to this. Especially as he issued exactly the same instruction to men. The rest - this niqab crap - is sheer fantasy.

I suspect the forearm injunction is the same. In other words, they're lying with the aim of being made into a special muslim case. Inch by inch.

Anonymous said...

BTW - Although the ignoramuses in the British Government, led by Head Ignoramus and Ugly Guy Gordon Brown say the British taxpayer is now going to responsible for "benefits" (charity) for multiple wives, as long as these marriages were contracted outside Britain in a country where this habit is legal - giving these slappers benefit can never be legal in the country where they contracted the marriage.

Why? Islam only permits more than one wife IF THE HUSBAND CAN AFFORD IT. It's right there in the koran. Therefore, if he entered into a marriage/marriages he cannot afford - in other words, if he can't support all these women, IT IS NOT A LEGAL MARRIAGE IN ISLAM.

That is something to look into. Perhaps Mr Bari could get some cosmic thoughts beamed down through his wig.

Grim Reader said...

Is this story even for real? I've read a lot of stuff recently about muslims getting special treatment, and it is beginning to set off my bullshit alarm. And just cos it is in a broadsheet doesn't make me anymore inclined to beleive it. Given that I am struggling to even get Good Friday off work on religious grounds, I can't see how anyone could seriously get away with poor hospital hygeine for religious reasons.

Anonymous said...

Grim Reader - don't be silly! Of course they'll get away with it! Or, more likely, an "adjustment". It's already been suggested - by a muslim, what else? - that there could be especially long gloves for muslims to cover their forearms. Accommodation after accommodation after accommodation to individuals who are on our territory, against our will, and are now setting the terms under which they will obey our laws.

Anonymous said...

Devil, you do realise that you've fallen for the "Nanny State's" propaganda this time, right? You do realise that spread of MRSA, C.Dificile, VRE etc is caused by bed occupancy over capacity, overcrowding on wards, and low (and falling) nurse to patient ratios as well as lack of proper ventilation systems and proper cleaners? Yes? What's cheaper for the Government then? Hiring more nurses, making available more hospital beds and opening more wards with fewer occupants, installing ventilation systems, insisting that VISITORS wash their hands and installing security personnel to force them to do so (MRSA is prevalent in the community, contrary to popular opinion) OR making it mandatory for medical personnel to be bare below the elbow. Which does no fucking good at all. I'm pretty fucking sure the overcrowding in the wards and toilets, being stuck in the same room as an MRSA positive patient shedding bacteria all over the place, being nursed by one harassed overworked junior nurse, isn't half as bad for me as the doctor wearing fucking sleeves. Really now.

John A said...

"Women training in several hospitals in England have raised objections to removing their arm coverings in theatre and to rolling up their sleeves when washing their hands, because it is regarded as immodest in Islam."

As noted by another commenter, this is not true. Depends on whether Sunni, Sufi, Wahabbi, etc. tradition is applied.

Islam, from the Koran, does implore modesty: but this at the time of you-know-who meant covering the genitalia of both sexes and the hair of women (a holdover from Judaism, as that was a holdover from general practice).

Yes, people who do not follow the rules of their employer should be fired. Let them start their own organisation. And in this case, the employer`s rules should not be changed!!!

Anonymous said...

VeryFuckingCynical has a lot of opinions about which he is absolutely certain, although he presents no credentials for us to judge his judgements by. So I assume he is a bloviator.

Facts, if hospital personnel have to have their forearms washed, and probably disinfected to save patients, that's what they have to do. Muslim allah-lallies who don't want to adhere to the rules of their employers must be what we technically call "dismissed".

They are free to get jobs working as cleaners on London Transport or collecting garbage or cleaning hotel toilets. But not working in hospitals.

Grim Reader said...

Verity, is it silly to question the veracity of these sorts of stories? Is it really beyond the realms of possibility that the papers are bullshitting us? I simply find it hard to believe that employers would accept this. If the law does not provide allowance for a Christian to take a day off for Good Friday, why should it suddenly allow medical staff to refuse to wash their hands because they are muslims?

Can anyone point to a source which represents muslim medical professionals and that can verify what is being claimed here?

I call shenanigans.

Anonymous said...

Grim Reader - The cultural cringe of those trying to demonstrate the universality of their sensitivities is not fake. It's real and it's a hazard to our health as a nation.

[In addition to which, the One Worlders seek to meld national identities and principles, as you know.]

Grim Reader said...

Cultural cringe? One Worlders?? What are you on about? This whole story is incredible. The only law i am aware of that could exempt these people from a hand washing is section 3(1)(b) of The Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2003, which define 'indirect discrimination'. I think they'd have a shaky time pulling that off, given the actual wording of 3(1)(b) which would require the person with dirty hands to show that washing them was not 'a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim'.

randian said...

What's incredible about it? There is nothing incredible about Muslims trying to exempt themselves from infidel rules. Muslim wants and needs trump those of lesser people. It's no different than Muslims wanting government support for polygamous marriages. Note that NHS hasn't yet said they agree with the idea of allowing Muslim women not to bare their arms, though the current political winds point in that direction.

Anonymous said...

As I noted above, muslim women are looking to have special arrangements made for them - extra long gloves to be manufactured especially for them (and bought by the NHS, i.e., the British taxpayer who never invited them in in the first place) to preserve a "modesty" that has never existed. Like the "modesty" of the niqab and burqas and all that garbage.

As noted: there is abso-bloody-utely all in their koran about wearing niqabs, burkas, long gloves and other crap. This is made-up power play coming down the pike now because they've found out how easy it is.

Frankly, most of the doctors struck off in Britain seem to be muslims. Doctors placing their cult above their profession should be sent off to Tesco's where they can announce on the mike that someone is trying,in their own country, to legally buy alcohol so could an infidel please wave the bottle in front of the scanner.

In no particular order, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Buddhist and atheists seem to be able to understand the science involved in washing forearms.

Just as an extra point, although the islamics account for (pick a percentage put about by the liars in the British goverment) but perhaps around 3% of the population of our islands, they account, through generation after generation after generation of first cousin marriages (aka incest) for 30% of the birth defects in treated on the NHS.

They are strangers to science.

Anonymous said...

Verity, I am a physician. I didn't put any opinions??? on my post. I put up facts. Given to me by a medical microbiologist who is responsible for infection control in the hospital. Very easily accessible facts though. They can be found in many online journals. Laypeople (I hate that word) can access these facts quite readily. I do agree that employees should have to obey the workplace rules and policies unless they infringe upon the employees liberties or contractually agreed rights and conditions, but I am pointing out that the following are the real causes of MRSA, C.Dificile, VRE and other nosocomial (hospital acquired) infections. Not SLEEVES! If you think about it, it makes sense. If six guys are stuck virtually touching each other (in a room designed originally for three beds, but the Government is cheaping out and not providing beds and isolation rooms for MRSA positive patients), and one of them has MRSA on his skin somewhere (30% of the population do have MRSA living in their nose not harming them at all), and the guy really really close next to him has a fresh surgical wound, well, guess what happens? MRSA gets shed all over his neighbours in his overcrowded ward, and anyone who has an open wound, who is immunocompromised in any way, who is diabetic, well they get a delightful dose of MRSA to deal with. C.Dif is even more contagious and lingers on and on in people. These bacteria actually encyst, and can hang around in a sort of dormant state which I find quite freaky. Which is why you need good cleaners and ventilation systems. VRE is actually the scariest of all of these bugs, aany microbiologist will tell you, and yet for some reason the media haven't seized on it yet. I don't know why. If you're admitted to hospital and you get a private room and bathroom, even with crap cleaning and no ventilation, your chance of contracting a nosocomial infection is drastically reduced. I understand the argument, that employees should obey the laws of their workplace, especially in a workplace such as a hospital where nothing can be taken lightly, but this particular rule flouting is not contributing to rising nosocomial infection rates like the Govt would have us all believe. It is a spin tactic designed to divert attention away from the real issue, which is that the Govt is not allocating enough money towards eradicationg the real causes of these infections, because it is very expensive to do.

Anonymous said...

thank god it wasnt the jews then youd be called an anti semite.

Anonymous said...

What veryfuckingcynical says about this issue being spin makes some sense. Let's face it, if a bit of spin will help anywhere, these ZanuLabour bastards will use it.

However, isn't it the point about requiring bare arms that full-length sleeves are yet another vehicle for transporting bugs between patients? If so it makes sense to stipulate that arms (which, unlike sleeves, can be washed between visits to patients) should be bare?

Sure, it's not going to remove the whole problem if the root cause really is the ratio of nurses to patients and overcrowding in the wards, but it at least slightly reduces the chances of infection being directly carried from patient to patient on clothing.

If some people have a problem with complying with a 'bare arm' requirement in hospitals then let them find alternative employment. It's as simple as that.

We have to take a stand against this insidious creep of 'special Muslim rights' in our society. If we don't put a stop to it, they'll soon be claiming that they shouldn't have to stop at red traffic lights because avoiding potential accidents by doing so would be subverting the will of Allah.

Anonymous said...

Hacked Off - V good! It makes you wonder why they bother allowing Westerners and Western technology in to rescue earthquake victims in Pakistan, when the earthquake was the will of allah in the first place. (allah seems to be a bit of a micrmanager. A kind of celestial Jimmy Carter.)

Doctors working for the British taxpayer have to obey the rules. And I as I said earlier, there is absolutely no command in the koran or the surahs that women have to wear Hallowe'en fright masks in public. He made the same rule for men and women: dress modestly.

By contrast, look at the beautiful Queen Rania of Jordan, who wears make-up and smashing hair styles and designer clothes and is a devout Muslim. Clearly, she has read the koran rather than listening to pig ignorant imams chuntering away.

Grim Reader said...

Incredible, (ĭn-krĕd'ə-bəl) adj. 1. So implausible as to elicit disbelief

Insert a few swear words into the above if it helps you understand.

VeryFuckingCynical, i think you are close to the truth with the following:

"It is a spin tactic designed to divert attention away from the real issue, which is that the Govt is not allocating enough money towards eradicationg the real causes of these infections, because it is very expensive to do."

(Altho i'm not so sure the issue is money so much as organisational structure.)

To Verity, and Devil:

I have tried to find other online sources for these Muslim objections to handwashing among medics, but all I can find is stuff referring back to the original Telegraph article. The Telegraph article has created a flurry of irresponsible pieces like the Devil's, condemning Muslims on the basis of this one news rag! I'm sorry to say this cos i do love the Devil's blog, but this is bordering on racist. We are likely talking about a few fringe oddballs, if that, and you guys have turned it into a full on culture war against Islam. Bullshit! And if i'm wrong, refer me to a website representing muslim medical professionals expressing the opinion that they should be exempt from basic hygiene!

I STILL call shenanigans.

randian said...

We may not be in a war with Islam, but Islam is in a full-on war with us. Deny it all you want. Claim it's only a "tiny minority of extremists" until you're blue in the face. Present these freaks as "misunderstanders of Islam". Oh how many misunderstanders there are! You are dangerously, foolishly wrong to believe those things.

Moreover, you are missing the point: given the proven fact that Muslims won't wash themselves with alcohol-based solutions (never mind that the Koranic injunction against alcohol refers only to consumption, just like the Jewish rule from which it was stolen) in order to maintain proper hospital hygiene and stop the spread of MRSA and such-like, this story sadly rings true. It is consistent with previous Muslim behavior.

Muslims really don't give a damn who is going die so long as infidels obey. Death is Allah's will anyway (see Inshallah Fatalism), so there is no need for western hygiene. It isn't about following the dictates of Islam regarding modesty, it's about following the dictates of Islam regarding the proper role of dhimmis: Muslims dictate the rules, dhimmis obey. This is all about fostering obedience, not hygiene.

Grim Reader said...

OK, so the eminently sensible folk over at Butterflies and Wheels actually linked to a muslim medic, Anisa Nasir, who has written about this issue. Notice that she acknowledges the problem, but argues that modesty rules do not apply within a medical context. Where are the published muslim medics arguing the other viewpoint??

Randian, you can type as much ascii as you like into the comment boxes, but it will not make any of what you say any more true or any less racist. Where did you hear about Islamic restrictions on alcohol based handwash? Did you read it in the Telegraph?

Devil, like the Telegraph article that your blog entry is based upon, your post generalises about all muslims and does a disservice to the many sensible folk of that faith who live alongside us. I will here quote Andy Gilmour over at Butterflies and Wheels, who says that the vast generalisation in the headline (thanks, dear sub-editor!) " Female Muslim medics disobey hygiene rules" - not 'radical' muslims, 'some' muslims, 'fundamentalist', 'an unknown number of', 'a few we've heard stories about', etc,etc - brings this down to the standards of the Daily Mail (ie none).

I really think that is something you ought to address if you are to be seen as having any journalistic integrity (or whatever is the blogging equivalent). Somehow i doubt you would be so credulous if the Telegraph were spreading similar bullshit about one of your own pet constituencies.

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Devil's Kitchen said...


You will note, in the very first sentence, my use of the qualifier "some", as in "some Muslim ladies"...

Verity, as I understand it, it is not that the Koran does not mention the niqab, it just does not specify what, precisely, one of those might be.


Anonymous said...

DK - One more time - no article of clothing is mentioned as being commanded by mohammad or allah. Mohammad, in this instance, said something perfectly uncontroversial, and he said it to both men and women: Dress modestly. No items of clothing were mentioned. Just don't flaunt your assets about.

The British government is febrile and pandering, as the 3% of islamics apparently vote for the socialists. Three per cent. Let's act like sane people and assume that the Labour government is lying. Let's say 4%.

Turkey has a 97% islamic population. (Bear with me.) The Turkish government has banned the niqab. Does this tell you anything? Such as, this niqab/burqa deal is not a direction from mohammad, otherwise they wouldn't dare ban it.

Even ordinary headscarves are being discouraged by the Turkish government. The Turks themselves seem to be fine with this.

Morocco has - a wild guess here - a 99% islamic population. Oddly enough, the Moroccan government, too, has banned the niqab. They felt comforable doing this because they know it is not commanded anywhere in the koran, because these people have actually read the koran, unlike the pig ignorant Jack Straw and all those ignorant bints in social housing who take their instructions from their igorant imams.

Morocco's gone even further than Turkey. They now strongly discourage even plain headscarves and do not allow a woman wearing one into public buildings. In other words, if she wants to go to the Post Office or enter a school building, etc., a security guard will tell her to remove her headscarf.

I haven't heard of any riots regarding this perfectly rational injunction. And this is two major islamic countries. (I know that Turkey is officially a secular country, but it population is islamic.)

The Grim Reader - i do love the Devil's blog, but this is bordering on racist.

Here we go again. How many people in Britain have had brain bypass surgery? Can you understand that a religion is not a race? A race is genetic. This is an important point to grasp in the universal scheme of things. Islamics are not just pakistanis (which, in any case, is also not a race; it's a nationality), but Arabs (Semites, to you), Somalis and those Caucasian ones in Bosnia or wherever.

A Caucasian is not the same race as a Somali, even if they are both islamics. Du-uh.

My point is, whatever islamic bint - and it will have been an attention-seeking bint as they are more aggressive than the men - brought up this forearm washing issue is an ignorant moron and should not be allowed anywhere near an operating theatre, even as a cleaner.

randian said...

Turkey bans the niqab because its government is officially secular, and Kemal Ataturk explicitly set down rules to keep Muslims under control. Now that Islamist parties are a majority, expect this to change. They are already pushing to eliminate Ataturk's rules and make Turkey an explicitly Sharia state. And Turkey is no different than any other Islamic country when it comes to implicitly condoning robbery, rape, and murder against Christians and Jews.

Morocco has banned the niqab because it allows anonymity, a big problem in a country with active terror groups like GPSC.

My point is that the Muslim who brought up forearm washing isn't an ignorant moron. They know full well what Islam requires. It was never about modesty. It's only and always about power and dominating the unbeliever, which is required by the Koran.

Anonymous said...

Randian - actually, I don't agree with your entire post, although you put the case interestingly. Turkey only recently (I believe) banned the niqab and started to officially disapprove of the headscarf. We are all well aware that Kemal Attaturk was determined to draw Turkey to the West.

But I believe the cases I cite were more recent and were to facilitate Turkey's application to get into the EU. So they're recent and pragmatic.

What counts here is that two states with vast - as in the upper 90 percentile - islamic majorities did not fear they were contravening any of mohammad's direction by banning the niqab and discouraging the scarf. This should tell these stupid people in English local councils, the government and the police force that the claims of these stupid women are spurious.

Islamic law does not supercede British law and you are correct: this is all about aggressive islam and nothing to do with modesty or the koran.

Grim Reader said...

Apologies, Verity, not racist, then. I wonder what the correct term would be to describe your bigotry.

Devil, I'm afraid that doesn't cut it. You've still just repeated uncritically an article you found on the Telegraph website, and turned your blog into a venue for knee-jerk hate-mongering. I again put it to you that you would not be so credulous if they were writing such nonsense about a group you identified with. There are a lot of valid criticisms of Islam, but this farce is clearly the papers trying to stir the shit.

I asked if anyone could link to a source representing muslim medics in the UK claiming exemption from hand washing on religious grounds. The rants on this thread do not hide the fact that such a link is not forthcoming. I've also heard no credible legal argument backing such exemption.

Anonymous said...

"Stupid fucking wahhabis and their stupid fucking beliefs, fucking up peoples lives wherever they go..."

How often do people stop to think?
Is the crap they are reading really true?

All the above comments just prove that they are not interested in the truth.

They just want the flimsiest of excuses to vent their hatred.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

If you dont like it then fuck off back to where you came from. Any bastard who say's that I can't drink alcohol, fornicate or play heavy metal rock can kiss my skinny white Christian asshole. You lot think that because you are allowed live in a country, you have the right to lay down the law. How fucking wrong you are, If you lot want anarchy then I am your man. Come and get it you fuck monkey!

Anonymous said...

Cave men who can not control thier impulses, can not handle women who express themselves. Thus they are not real men. Cave men who are afraid of the beauty of the female form should refrain from telling real men what to do. This muslim angle is clearly derived from a massive insecurity that permeates the men of Islamic faith generally. Real men do not have a problem with the majesty of the female form and its beauty.
Fuck off sad boy. You dont tell me what I can or can not do. God Bless AC/DC (The Band) and freedom!

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