Thursday, July 19, 2007

A story that I've not yet covered is that of the state insisting that our bodies are theirs once we die (even though our estate is taxable from our own assets, rather than the state's).

Once more, there is another fantastic article on from someone who thinks that this is a massive pile of horseshit.


Andrew Ian Dodge said...

That is just a non-starter. The idiot is trying to get the state to declare your body-parts property of the state. He was on Daily Politics and he got upset by criticism.

Neal Asher said...

If the state wants to increase the number of organ donations perhaps is should offer to absorb the funeral/disposal/composting costs of whatever is left over? The problem with this, of course, is that it would result in the employment of another few thousand bureaucrats and end up more expensive across the board.

anarki said...

I thought this was pretty simple. Why does it matter to you what happens to your body after you day? It makes no difference to you or anyone else whether your dead body in its grave has a kidney missing or whatever. All it means is someone will benefit and possibly have their life saved.

I know the liberal view is that you should be able to choose, but I think a lot of people would be happy to give up their organs after death, but just can't be bothered to go through the forms and get a special card and whatever. There could be an opt out, just you would default to organ donor status.

Seems like a good idea to me

Chuck Unsworth said...

Well it may seem like a good idea to some but frankly I've had enough state interference in my life and, believe me, I don't want the cretins in Whitehall involving themselves in my death and burial as well.

These morons just don't get it. Their voluntary code has been an abject failure so they now want to make it compulsory. Typical of the punitive, invasive, and controlling approach of NuLab. They are dangerous control freaks.

Devil's Kitchen said...


This is not directed at you particularly, but fucking hell! I'm so sick of this fucking attitude: there are times when the British people make me want to vomit.

Yes, this measure is extremely popular: "people" think that it is "a good thing". Unfortunately it wasn't, apparently, good enough for them to get off their fat fucking arses and sort it out themselves.

Oh no, the government has to come along and curtail yet another little bit of our freedom (in a symbolic rather than practical way, as you point out) and the fucking ignorant, lazy cunts who make up the vast majority of our population sit there, clapping like fucking seals at a circus.

Politicians and journos are at the top of my hate-list; the average British person is not too far down...


anarki said...

If you admit that people think it's a good thing, what is the problem? It's just shifting the onus from people to explicitly sign up for organ donation, onto people who don't want their organs donated to do something about it.

And isn't their some kind of argument that when you're dead, you don't own your body anymore, since you're not alive to own anything at all. Therefore whether you have a say about what happens is irrelevant?

I usually am very for personal freedoms and against government intervention, but I think the area of organ donation is one where they can help.

Sir Henry Morgan said...

I've got a fucking big tattoo on my chest. It reads:

1 Never Resuscitate

2.Never Remove organs


Everybody gotta die sometime, so fuck 'em - . And I really do have the tattoo. My GP was/is bemused by it.

Oh yeah? So what has happened for the last ten years, exactly?

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