Thursday, September 28, 2006

Those goshdarned peaceful Muslims again

Via Matt Sinclair, here we go again.
It looks as if immigrants youths want to turn nightly rioting during the Islamic holy month of ramadan into an annual tradition. Around 8:30pm last night violence erupted again in Brussels, the capital of Europe. The riots centered on the Brussels Marollen quarter and the area near the Midi Train Station, where the international trains from London and Paris arrive. Youths threw stones at passing people and cars, windows of parked cars were smashed, bus shelters were demolished, cars were set ablaze, a youth club was arsoned and a shop was looted. Two molotov cocktails were thrown into St.Peter’s hospital, one of the main hospitals of central Brussels. The fire brigade was able to extinguish the fires at the hospital, but youths managed to steal the keys of the fire engine.

Matt points to the traditional "feeling of alienation and economic depression"; this is all very well, but why are Muslims so mired? At least part of the answer was provided by Strange Stuff during the French riots last year.
If you want to know the real reason why the Muslim communities remain mired in self segregation and poverty while every other immigrant community manages to pull itself up by it's bootstraps and succeed this article in David Horowitz's magazine would be a good starting point.

Indeed; and what do we find? [Emphasis mine.]
In primary schools, the report cites instances of first grade boys' refusing to participate in coed activities and Muslim children's refusing to sing, dance, or draw a face.

Finally, the report discusses a host of difficulties teachers encounter in dealing with specific subjects in the classroom. Most Muslim kids refuse to participate in sports or swimming, the girls out of modesty, the boys because they do not want to swim in "girls' water" or "non-Muslim water." When it comes to literature, French philosophers such as Voltaire and Rousseau are very often boycotted because of their supposed Islamophobia. Molière, the father of French satiric comedy, is among the writers most often boycotted.

As for history, Muslim students object to its Judeo-Christian bias and blatant falsehood. They loudly protest the Crusades, and commonly deny the Holocaust. Under the circumstances, many teachers censor their own material, often skipping entire topics, like the history of Israel or of Christianity. The report cites one teacher who keeps a Koran on his desk for reference whenever a thorny issue arises. It cites Muslim students who refuse to use the plus sign in mathematics because it looks like a cross. Field trips, especially to churches, cathedrals, and monasteries, are boycotted.

Which corresponds very well to the British experience that Muslims do very badly in education. It is not due to racism (Hindus and Sikhs after all do very well, better than natives) of the teachers, so the problem must be the culture of the students. A culture that puts being a good Muslim above getting a good education, a good education being the best way out of poverty and into becoming a successful member of society. But
According to the report, Muslim students perceive a large gap between the French and themselves. Even though most of the Muslim kids are actually French citizens, they see themselves as Muslims first, and more and more of them hail Osama bin Laden as their hero. In their eyes, he represents a victorious Islam triumphing over the West.

So then being a good Muslim requires that they not integrate and become a successful member of native society but must remain true to being loyal to the 'Nation of Islam' rather than the nation that they live in.

If you will not learn the skills that will allow you to compete in an extraordinarily competitive job market then you will end up being unemployed. If you simultaneously refuse to integrate with your countrymen, preferring instead to see yourself as a member of a race apart, then you will end up ghettoised (especially if, like many Muslims, you chose to be so).

And when a lot of young men with no jobs and little prospect of getting one come together, then we see what happens. I wonder if France and Denmark are going to go up again?

I think that, despite the handwringing, it is a measure of the relative success of our integration policies that we have not yet riots on this scale; but how soon will it be—as ever-increasing numbers of Muslims from more radical parts of the world flood in—before it does?


Andrew Field said...

And while we're at it hiding in a cave on the Pakistani border dying of typhoid is truly victory on a Napoleonic scale.

Matthew Sinclair said...

I agree that there is a degree to which the Muslim community has to make its own better economic fortune. However, when you have a labour market like that in France it doesn't make things easy for newcomers. That's why other groups new to the labour market, like young people, also have a very hard time there.

Were this happening in Britain your criticism would be absolutely valid.

Anonymous said...


Don't get too upset - we have it on the authority of the Mayor of LondON no less that "multiculturalism works in London" (interviewed on Radio 4 "Today" this morning). I think what he's trying to say is that, in terms of electoral arithmetic and getting elected, "multiculturalism works for Ken".

Mr Eugenides said...

What Muslims? The BBC didn't say anything about Muslims.

CityUnslicker said...

When I lived in Leeds there were plenty of muslim riots in Hyde Park and Bradford.

because this was 10 years aog they were called race riots becuase all the kids were Asian.

But they were also all pakistani muslims, not indian hindu's or sikhs...

'Race Riots' - a phrase that has a nice PC/mulitculural cover-up in built.

chris said...

The BBC hasn't said anything about riots.

Anonymous said...

"If you will not learn the skills that will allow you to compete in an extraordinarily competitive job market then you will end up being unemployed."

and its gotten even more competitive , with the arrival of the eastern Europeans. Unlike the UK , countries like Belgium and France have delayed the envitable opening of borders to Eastern European immigrant workers. When that happens, eventually, you are going to have one hell of a tinderbox waiting to blow up.

Lets face facts - if you are Michelle from Bordeaux, who are you going to hire as cheap laour on your vineyard - a chip-on-his-shoulder Muslim or a hard working Pole???

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