Sunday, June 25, 2006

Please stop using IE. Again.

Via this week's Britblog #71 (up at the usual place), The Inside Of My Head points to a lovely diagram showing why you should use anything other than Internet Explorer.



The bit about IE is entirely correct. However, what you may not realise is that that pink bit—the bit about trying to design a site using CSS and resorting to tables, is also down to the fact that IE doesn't even read very basic CSS properly. It is highly annoying and ensures that you usually need to use far more Styles than would normally be necessary.

So, once more I shall echo this call: please don't use IE. Use something else...

8 comments:

Katy Newton said...

Well, you say that, but something has gone funny with the Javascript on my Firefox and now I have to use IE or I can't get my Bloglines subs.

Slagella said...

I use Firefox under Windows and Fedora Core 5 - it took a week to get Java working with Fedora - Katy's right - Windows and IE are the only options if your'e not an old geek like me. Get your act together, non-MS people!

chris said...

trying to do Javascript programming with Firefox is painful, trying to get layout with CSS in IE is an exercise in futility. Safari however has the javascript goodness of IE with better CSS support than Firefox. God I hate it that most of the world uses Windows.

Katy Newton said...

And the worst thing is that I love Firefox because it is so much faster and easier to use than IE and the tabs are so nifty.

Anonymous said...

So, Devil, I'm curious as to your own choice of browser, given that you don't mention it in the post.

Personally, I use Opera on PCs, Camino on Macs, the latter largely because I often have to use Macs on a cluster where you can't just install your own software.

MatGB said...

Pink: DK has said he uses Safari, but it's definately a Mac browser.

DK: Thought you'd like that one, it was the post that prompted me to open up the weekly nomination email.

Katy: I've never had a problem with Bloglines in Fx, nor with java generally, although I've heard it can sometimes be problematic.

Does anyone with a better design head than me know if IE 7 actually manages to render CSS properly as per standards? Esentially, competition in the browser market is doing great things, and if M$ has caught up, then maybe we can get on with just coding?

Devil's Kitchen said...

MatGB,

I know that Allan at Politicalog was testing it: he wasn't tremendously impressed, but I know that they are still developing. Unfortunately, being a Mac man, I can't test it myself.

Yes, I mainly use Safari but ironically -- because of some reduced Javascript support (mainly with WYSIWYG Editors in CMS systems) -- I have to occasionally use a Mozilla browser. Camino is my browser of choice, but I also use Firefox from time to time.

I try to test my sites in as many browsers as possible, so I also occasionally fire up IE 5.2, Mozilla, SeaMonkey, Netscape, Opera and Flock. Though not often, it must be said...

DK

Allan Scullion said...

You won't be surprised to hear that IE 7 is just as shite as 6. I am currently knee deep in coding an intranet site (hence rather light on the blogging front) that rendered perfectly in IE6 and Firefox. I installed IE7 and it is shot to pieces.

Having to shoot for the lowest common denominator is the most irritating thing about web development and MS just seem to make it harder at each turn.

I am not generally a Microsoft hater. I have made a decent career out of their software and development tools. However as the days go by, Open Source is starting to look more and more appealing.

Al

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