Friday, January 27, 2006

Palestinians just want peace. No, really.

Well, that's gone and fucked it.
Islamic militant group Hamas has won a surprise victory in Wednesday's Palestinian parliamentary elections.

Preliminary results give Hamas 76 of the 132 seats in the chamber, with the ruling Fatah party trailing on 43.

It also rather gives the lie to the old idea that the majority of Palestinians just want peace.

The thing is that many lefties will start saying "well, if Israel hadn't treated them so badly, then this would never have happened."


Israel sectioned off the West Bank, etc. because the Palestinians constantly attacked them, not for shits and giggles. And, lest we forget, Israel only had the West bank, Gaza Strip and Golan Heights because the Arab nations tried to invade them. At least three times.

You can find good summaries here and here.

Hamas's win does provide some serious problems for the Middle East: Israel has said that it will not treat with terrorists and Hamas has repeatedly stated that their aim is the total destruction of Israel. "We will drive them into the sea" was, I think, the particular phrase used.

It also presents a slight problem for the EU, which gives large amounts of money to the Palestinian Authority. As His Imperial Majesty points out:
It is unlawful for a person in the United States or subject to the jurisdiction of the United States to knowingly provide “material support or resources” to a designated FTO [Foreign Terrorist Organization].

Now, does the EU have a similar law? One would assume so. And does it have a list of terrorist organisations? And, if so, is Hamas on it? Also, to what extent is the EU willing to piss off the US?

Interesting times, my friends...


Anonymous said...

Actually the Arab states have NEVER invaded Israel, whereas Israel has invaded all of it's neighbours on numerous occasions.

Israel 'has' the West Bank because it invaded and occupied it, just as Saddam invaded and occupied Kuwait (presumably you think that was necessay in order for Saddam to 'defend Iraq').

Devil's Kitchen said...

I said "tried" to invade. In 1973, for starters.


Katy Newton said...
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Ordinary activist said...

You've admitted in other posts you don't do research - sometimes you desire to be provocatove outweighs your common sense

MuppetLord said...

This should be of interest then.

Devil's Kitchen said...

Adelante, I don't set out to be provocative, I just am.


the ink slinger said...

We've read elsewhere that many voted for Hamas because they were fed up to the back teeth with their corrupt Fatah predecessors.

Could there be any truth in this?

Just asking like.

Devil's Kitchen said...

What, a bit like th last French Presidential election, but with a local flavour? Something like:

"Vote for the murdering, piece-of-shit suicide bombers, not the crook..."



Anonymous said...

Dear Mr Kitchen, your analysis is amateurish and wrong-headed. Actually most Palestinians do want peace. A reputable recent study by the US Institue of Peace found we have never been more compromising than we are now.

Palestinians voted in Hamas as a protest against Fateh and as a protest against Israel and the intl community for a 10 year peace process that hasn't yet us brought peace. We did not vote them in for suicide bombing. But as Shikaki notes "Palestinian opposition to violence increases when diplomacy proves effective. Public support for violence increases in an environment of greater pain and suffering and decreases when threat perception is reduced." We want a two-state solution now. If you want it too, pressure Israel to end its occupation and colonisation of our land.

Devil's Kitchen said...

Have the Palestinians ever thought that, just maybe, if they stopped blowing the shit out the Jews, that Israel might reciprocate? Israel has shown itself willing to compromise, and to make concessions.

The Palestinians have not. And if you didn't get peace under Fateh, there is no way that it is going to happen under Hamas. Protest is all very well, but one should try to improve one's situation, rather than electing a bunch of uncompromising terrorists to run one's government.


Ed said...

DK, all you're saying is that you can't understand the Palestinians in electing Hamas. But they did elect Hamas. So ...

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