Saturday, July 24, 2010

The Green Agenda

Dick Puddlecote has a series of quotes from (low-energy) luminaries of the Green movement around the world.
"The goal now is a socialist, redistributionist society, which is nature's proper steward and society's only hope."David Brower, founder of Friends of the Earth

It's a bit scary, that.

But then, so are these.
"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy."Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

“The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.”Dr David Frame, climate modeller, Oxford University

Quotes like these will be familiar to long-time readers of The Kitchen, and there are many more over at The Green Agenda—including this one (which I have definitely quoted before) from a scientist named Stephen Schneider...
"We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public's imagination... So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."Prof. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports

Professor Stephen Schneider died last week, on the 19th July—and the Telegraph led with a rather snide subhead.
Professor Stephen Schneider, who died on Monday aged 65, made his name in the 1970s by predicting a "new ice age", but went on to become one of the best-known proponents of the idea of global warming caused by human activities.

The rest of the obituary is, however, rather more fawning in its tone—unlike Phelim McAleer's piece on Not Evil Just Wrong.
Professor Schneider's death is a shock and a tragedy for his family and we at Not Evil Just Wrong offer our condolences to his relatives for their personal loss. His death was sudden and must have come as a shock to his family and colleagues. However, it has to be said that Professor Schneider died as he had lived—a completely unrepentant hypocrite.

Global Warming alarmists, of which Professor Schneider was one of the most prominent, all agree that aviation and flying is one the biggest causes of Global Warming—which they believe is going to wipe out hundreds of millions of lives and make large parts of the planet uninhabitable.

But just like Professor Schneider they fly and they fly and they fly. Often they will fly to conferences that come to the conclusion that others must not be allowed to fly.

Of course important people such as Professor Schneider must fly because they are doing an "important" job. But people from middle America, who work hard and want to go on vacation or to visit family they must be kept at home.

And the people of the developing world, they must forget about living in a modern economy burning fossils fuels or having a modern business infrastructure which involves airports and business flights. No—according to the late Professor Schneider and his colleagues they must continue to have a pre-industrial existence because industry will destroy the planet by causing Global Warming.

Of course the recent Global Warming scare is not the first time that Professor Schneider wanted to call a halt to the modern industrial world. In the 1970's Prof Schneider was one of the main Global cooling alarmists—he warned we were about to enter a new Ice Age and the only solution was to end industrial output.

Professor Schneider posed as an academic but hated tough questions and debate. He used Stanford's lawyers to try and censor our documentary when we interviewed him about his scientific flip-flopping. As a small film production company we had to remove his interview from our film. When I tried to push him further at the Copenhagen Climate Conference—he called an armed security guard to have our cameras switched off.

But that is not why I am breaking the long standing tradition of not speaking ill of the dead. I am a journalist and used to the powerful not wanting to answer awkward questions.

I am speaking strongly and truthfully about Professor Schneider because he was a hypocrite who wanted to deny the benefits of modernity to hundreds of millions across the globe whilst enjoying those benefits himself.

I don't think that I have anything else to add to that, frankly.

UPDATE: a reader writes...
I noticed an interesting quote on your recent "Green Agenda" post:
“The models are convenient fictions that provide something very
Dr David Frame, climate modeller, Oxford University

In response to that:
"I stand by that quote - in fact I think it's a blindingly obvious point. The models are fictitious worlds - just look at their representations of topography, clouds and other everyday phenomena.

But they are convenient tools that let us learn useful things, like how the fluid bits of the earth system respond to radiative forcing."

The way the article is phrased appears to suggest that this fellow is a lefty and interested in pushing the green agenda, but as someone who has discussed the matter with him personally I know that this is far from the case. That quote could have been read as the useful thing being the chance to perpetrate a bit of Marxism disguised as science, but that isn't the case either as the above comment shows.

Of course Dr Frame (and my reader) is entirely correct—the climate models are fictitious worlds. The trouble is that, whilst most scientists ( and those au fait with that world) would take this fact for granted, it is all too often that I hear people (especially those in the media) talking about "the evidence from climate models shows...".

Climate models are just that—models. They cannot show any evidence, only suggestions. The only evidence possible is that collected from the real world using proper, scientific methods.


Mr Civil Libertarian said...

"Dick Puddlecote has a series of quotes from (low-energy) luminaries of the Green movement around the world."

Are they low energy because they keep their brains on stand-by all the time?

Or do they just keep them switched off?

Ian E said...

Still, to be fair to Schneider, he may have been a rather unpleasant, self-loving, hater of humanity, but he stuck to his agenda!

Furor Teutonicus said...

"Greens" are just melons.

Green on the outside and deep commy shit red on the inside.

Anonymous said...

RIH cuntfeatures. How many people did you cndemn to a worse life?

Syd Baumel said...

I'm trying to authenticate the quote attribute to David Frame. Your update is a little ambiguous (to me, at least), so are you saying that your reader quoted Frame as telling him: "I stand by that quote [etc] ....radiative forcing"?

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