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Friday, November 20, 2009

CRU Emails #6: follow the money

Posted by Devil's Kitchen at 11/20/2009 09:56:00 PM

Now that the general hilarity engendered by the email has simmered down a little, people are starting to look at the (vast numbers of) documents—many of which are very revealing.

Your humble Devil has constantly pointed out that climate scientists may not be in a conspiracy to deceive mankind—but they do need money for research. A lot of money.

And creating a massive scare and then doing some research on it is a very good way to get that money.

Yes, yes, Devil: but how much money?

Well, Phil Jones—one of the main players in the CRU conversations—has collected... well... a lot.
So far, the most interesting file I found in the "documents" directory is
pdj_grant_since1990.xls (Google preview, click)

which shows that since 1990, Phil Jones has collected staggering 13.7 million British pounds ($22.6 million) in grants. The major amounts came from HEFCE (6.6 million pounds) and NERC (2.7 million pounds). Later, we will get some idea whether he has used the money to do proper science and whether the truth and objectivity was kept as the key principle, beating a possibility to double the amount. ;-)

What is my reaction to these financial amounts? These numbers are difficult for me to comprehend so I just borrow a reaction from Jeff Id: Big Oil My Ass. :-)

As the mantra goes, follow the money. And £13.7 million makes quite a big pile to follow...

UPDATING: a list of The Kitchen posts, so far, concerning this is posted below:
  1. Climate Alarmism revealed

  2. A selection of emails: Dr Keiller complains

  3. Real Climate responds

  4. Summarising the salient points of the emails

  5. The Englishman speculates

  6. Follow the money

  7. Harrabin leads the BBC fightback

  8. Random scandals: a conversation on dendroclimatology

  9. A note on the authenticity of the data

  10. Hacked? Or leaked?

And, just as a reminder, feel free to browse the searchable database.

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Posted by Devil's Kitchen at 11/20/2009 09:56:00 PM


8 Blogger Comments:

Blogger The Filthy Smoker said...

Christopher Booker's column in the Sunday Telegraph should be worth reading this weekend.

11/20/2009 10:25:00 PM  
Blogger Ayrdale said...

But bliss it was to be alive...

Things will never be the same. And WTF, let's all give credit where it's due.

Al Gore invented the internet, and made this whistleblowing possible.

Good on yer Al ! You bewdy !

11/21/2009 01:33:00 AM  
Blogger AndrewSouthLondon said...

Jesus the sheer scale of the Climate Change Industry is frightening. Just read the spreadsgheet list of commissioners of research - dozens and dozens of Government Agencies and departments, the EU, NATO, other Academics its endless, its bloody huge.Imagine what useful things might be being done by all these thousands of people were they not chasing this climate nonsense. No wonder they are scared shitless of AGW all being phoney. Why don't we all know about this going on behind innocent-sounding "Environmental Studies" Its bred a huge army of AGW-hustlers.

11/21/2009 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a scientist are you?

Science is expensive. Tell me how much a Large hadron Collider costs these days? $22m is nothing in science.

Perhaps you should be transferring your ire to Big Pharma, who really are wasting money, and then tell us that we have to die unless we pay their inflated prices.

11/21/2009 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger neil craig said...

When you account for inflation £13.7 million is about 1/3rd of what the Great Train Robbers got though they didn't fdo the billions worth of collateral damage the warming scam does. I would give the whole bunch of them about 1/3rd of what the train robbers got.

11/21/2009 04:38:00 PM  
Blogger Devil's Kitchen said...

Anon,

"Perhaps you should be transferring your ire to Big Pharma, who really are wasting money, and then tell us that we have to die unless we pay their inflated prices."

Have you any idea how much it costs, on average, for Big Pharma to bring a drug to market? No?

It costs, on average, some $600 million dollars in R&D, initial testing, then animal testing, then human testing.

It takes about six years and, with a 14 year patent, means that they have about 7 years to recover that $600 million.

Haven't you ever wondered why pharmaceutical companies are so big? It's because small companies cannot foot the costs of bringing drugs to market.

Small companies do exist, but they tend to do the R&D stage and then pass the drug to Big Pharma to bring it to market.

You moron.

DK

11/21/2009 07:33:00 PM  
Blogger Nik said...

What is most frightening of all is how all this charade NOT have ended had a whistleblower not acted. All in the face of the fact that very few people actually know: there exist several very long term thermometer records that are not controversial and yet which show no industrial era warming above what has been normal for centuries!

So I grabbed the data and plotted it and my jaw dropped. It dropped again when I realized that the longest series of all not only showed a similar upward slash as today but that it matched the data that is being used to scare everybody, except it put today's warming in perspective.

http://i45.tinypic.com/iwq8a1.jpg

11/22/2009 09:26:00 AM  
Blogger neil craig said...

If "Big Pharma" are wasting money there & I'm sure they are it is because of state required regulation. Typical tactics for statists to push up the cost of something, blame the people actually doing the work & demand more state parasites to solve it (see also under "affordable housing" etc). Sorry for letting myself be dragged off topic.

11/22/2009 12:55:00 PM  

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