Saturday, October 17, 2009

Sensible women and fucking stupid women

Emily Thornberry MP: a very stupid and thoroughly unpleasant person who should be severely punched in the cunt, and then thrown into the sea.

Via Samizdata, I see that some lassie called Nichola Pease has warned that maternity pay—and other benefits—risk making women effectively unemployable.
Nichola Pease, a top City executive, caused a stir last week when she said that state-enforced maternity leave "rights" for women - and for that matter, paternity leave - was a cost that had a bad consequence. If you tell a company that it must pay a woman her full salary for a year while she is not working and raising her child, say, then, other things being equal, fewer women will be employed in the first place, however hard one tries to enforce so-called equal opportunity hiring practices.

This is a simple fact. If you raise the cost to a company of employing a person or increase the risk that employing a woman will be more expensive than employing a man, say, then fewer women will be employed. It is a fact as undeniable as a the laws of gravity.

Quite. Here's more from the original article...
Nichola Pease, deputy chairman of JO Hambro capital management and a mother of three, said excessive maternity leave and eye-watering sex discrimination payouts could backfire on women.

She denied allegations of sexism in the City, claiming most women did not rise through the ranks because of their own choices rather than any prejudice against them.

And she suggested bosses were reluctant to employ women for fear they could go on to have lots of children supported by Britain's over-generous maternity leave system.

'We have got to be realistic and make sure the protection around women doesn't end up backfiring,' she told a parliamentary hearing into sexism in the financial sector. 'That is actually one of my greatest worries.'

Mrs Pease, 48, said women were 'a really capable, practical and driven bunch of multi-taskers'.

But their contribution to the workforce risked being overshadowed by a nightmare of 'legislation and protection'.

'I think we have got too long maternity,' she told MPs.

'A year is too long and sex discrimination cases that run into the tens of millions are ridiculous.'

Women in Britain currently have the right to 52 weeks maternity leave.

One gets tired of repeating the same old mantra—incentives matter, you morons—but it seems that these idiot socialists just don't get it. It is one of the things that make me so angry with these stupid bastards: they seem to think that—if you just wish (or legislate) hard enough—then you can change both human nature and reality.

Here's news for you, you fucking socialist morons—you cannot change human nature. All of your fucking around just creates perverse incentives and your legislation has unintended consequences.

And then these nitwits pass more and more legislation which tries to compensate for the previous screwy laws. For instance, socialists enable maternity pay for women; then they realise that this makes women less employable, so they then have to pass laws making it illegal to discriminate; but these laws don't fucking work because no business person is going to risk crippling their company. And so we wait for the next round of stupid legislation—usually auteured by that disgraceful, lawless bitch, Harpy Harmperson.
Mrs Pease, who is said to earn around £3.5million, enraged equal rights campaigners who warned that maternity leave was vital if women are to compete on equal footing with men.

That sentence actually makes no fucking sense at all. None. As Mrs Pease points out, maternity leave and other bonuses make women less employable: they most certainly do not allow them to "compete on equal footing with men"—not least because companies aren't forced to pay for men to take a year off whilst being compelled to keep their job open.

Mrs Pease is obviously one of those women who absolutely understand that incentives matter; Emily Thornberry MP, however, does not.
Labour MP Emily Thornberry said: 'I am absolutely horrified to hear such an old-fashioned view expressed by someone who should know better.

Is that the extent of your argument, Emily—this piss-weak attempt to talk down to a woman far more successful and intelligent than yourself? Do you have any logical, economic argument to present?

No? Well, what a fucking surprise, Emily. You see, just another socialist moron attempting to change the world to fit her own deluded mindset and without even the slightest grip on the reality of humanity.
'The rights that Labour have given to women are extremely important - especially to women who do not have a £10million cushion to sit on.'

And this, of course, is typical NuLabour: if you don't have any reasonable counter-argument, just sneer at your opponent, smear them and demonise them.

Look, Emily, Mrs Pease may have a lot of cash but she fucking well earned it; you, on the other hand, get your salary through picking other people's pockets, and then last year you managed to steal an extra £132,390 from the taxpayer. So, why don't you shut your fucking face, you repulsive parasite?

Of course, Emily Thornberry is the kind of person who would support this piece of crap (found via Timmy).
Women without children should be allowed maternity leave, survey says

Women who do not have children should be allowed to take maternity leave, allowing them time off from the workplace, according to a study.

It found that 74 per cent of women would be in favour of being allowed to take a six-month break, or even longer, as mothers are allowed to do when they give birth. More than two-thirds of those in favour were mothers themselves.

All that this survey shows is that 74% of the people surveyed are absolute fucking morons. Well, either that or they are absolutely determined to ensure that no woman gets a job ever again. This is an devastatingly stupid idea—indicated, I think, by the fact that it is referred to as "maternity leave" when there is no maternity. But I bet Emily Thornberry supports it. Because she's a thick bitch.

I increasingly think that the world is going absolutely insane: we are seeing more and more people coming out with ideas that are, quite simply, unworkable. Has everyone gone completely batshit mad?

Nope: they're just socialists.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Effectively, a woman would have to be better than a man at the same job for a company to choose the woman. Thus, uni degrees, A-Levels and GCSEs should favour girls.

John East said...

Everything you say is evidently true.

So why are we faced with a possible depression, societal collapse, and resulting third world status over the next few generations which seems the most likely outcome.

How was it that the fucking socialists won?

Bodderick said...

How was it that the fucking socialists won?

I am begining to believe that the socialists didn't win the establishment will always be on top - whatever system of governance is in place.

Good post DK cheered me up, thanks.

Tr0ll said...

I agree entirely Mr D, very well put. However, I couldn't condone your description of Cuntberry, which I think is technically an incitement to violence.
I also feel I have to point out that officially Emily 'Idiotic fucking parasite' Cuntberry MP is the High Guardian with special responsibility for creating a fucking nightmare dystopia.

polaris said...

Absolute utopian nonsense - we women accept our nature, what choice do we have? If you get pregnant, it isn't a career-fucking disaster unless you want it to be - a good education and a good work record will see you through maternity leave, if you want it to - gender equality does not come into this, at all.
There is one serious flaw in the analysis by Mrs Pease though - actual maternity leave and financial entitlement bear no resemblance to the 12 months at full salary she cites - a case of over-egging methinks. There is no generous statutory entitlement in the UK, it would be fair to say that it is a pittance. Whether that level is right or wrong is an entirely different debate though.
It's worth noting that businesses with female staff they wish to retain will often make considerably more generous arrangements than they are obliged to, that is their prerogative.

Mango said...

Anyone else think of Life of Brian's prescient line...

"It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.", when reading the truly incredible "Women without children should be allowed maternity leave".

She was joking, right?

Truly, there no need for any more satire, ever. At all.

Tom Paine said...

I think there's a mistake in your last line, which should read "Yep, or to put it another way, they're socialists". I remain convinced that a preference for punishment over reward and a desire to interfere in every aspect of others' lives is a mental illness, not an ideology. This would account for why there are still socialists, despite half of mankind having suffered in the 20th Century to prove conclusively that it doesn't work.

Techno Mystic said...

In our workplace we had a Polish woman start as a temp. As soon as she got into a permanent role she got pregnant and is now on maternity leave.

I like the Polish, I really do, but that was disturbing.

Mitch said...

The small Engineering company that I work for has no women of child bearing age and never will....guess why?.
There will always be a good reason not too and with only 20 people we just couldn't afford it.

Dick Puddlecote said...

"just another socialist moron attempting to change the world to fit her own deluded mindset and without even the slightest grip on the reality of humanity."

Aye, very true, sadly.

And, as you point out, when challenged, they retreat into ad hom, marginalisation and outright threats. A more spiteful ideology it is difficult to imagine.

Worse still, Cameron's bunch of jerk-offs are copying them!

Winston said...

@Techno Mystic, that's nothing, last year we employed a woman who started work on Wednesday, by the following Tuesday she 'discovered' she was three months pregnant.

Fortunately though I believe we don't have to pay her maternity leave, well, the company doesn't, as a taxpayer I have to pay.

neil craig said...

Also all such questions are always menus without prices. If you asked all men "would you like to be allowed 6 months off work with pay" who is going to say no either?

If you ask would you give up the equivalent of 10p extra on income taxes virtually everybody, women included, would say no.

1p on income tax is about £4 bn. If every time a politician said they wanted to spend more they were publicly told they were asking for X fraction of a p on income tax or equivalent & asked to say what exactly the equivalent is if that is the choice, we would soon get the picture.

Twig said...

If women were entitled to six months of maternity leave without having children, would that mean that in the interests of equality men would get the same?

John Demetriou said...

"Emily Thornberry MP: a very stupid and thoroughly unpleasant person who should be severely punched in the cunt, and then thrown into the sea."

Nice advert for libertarianism and the party. Well done.

thefrollickingmole said...

I have one employee at my company, a charming Muslim lady (headscarf not letterbox clothing), and Im sure it was only co-incidence that out of the final 3 applicants she was the one who had finished her child bearing life.....

There will always be reasons to not employ someone, I personaly would be loath to employ any woman under 30.

Vicola said...

"Women without children should be allowed maternity leave".

Pah, I can really see my MD agreeing to let me have six months off work while keeping my job open. Aye, right.

Ms Pease is spot on. My parents own a nursing home and they are pretty liberal people however for business reasons, even they try and avoid employing women of child bearing age if possible. They've been stung so many times by women who in their second week of employment have announced that they're pregnant. It cripples the business when you've got a staff of 30 and 6 of them are on maternity leave. And as a married woman of 30 you should try getting a new job, it's well nigh fucking impossible unless you want to work in the public sector.

Devil's Kitchen said...

John Demetriou,

Pot... kettle... black...

DK

John Demetriou said...

Course it is, mate. Course it is. I regularly make lunatic suggestions like that and demand for death and pain for politicians.

Or, er, not. As the case may be.

Alix said...

All true.

When I am feeling depressed about something the Lib Dems have done (viz. airbrushing and the like) one of the policies I remind myself of is the one that makes the 12 month period into "parental leave", to be split up between the parents exactly as they wish.

Anonymous said...

There is a legacy of theft in this family. Mom used to steal supplies and had for DECADES!!! To maximize damage they likely told her why::::::To establish this legacy of theft so they can justify pushing me into stealing, ensuring indifference from society's elite who will be positioned to be involved in this Situation.
The proceeds from disposition went into their pockets instead of the estate.
She clears the pantry and cases of wine, packs them in her car and drove it all home. As if she needs to pickle her brain any more.
Next time the boy shoplifts I hope he gets arrested.
They offered dishonest soldier the temptation of maximizing the prices he commands by pushing people into buying at above market value. And I suspect his selling history will attest to this. Not to mention the two $20 Starbucks gift cards he stole out of my car.
Think this will shut the tough guy up? Because I can go on about his schitzophrenia and how it makes him more likely to be a recidivist pediophile.
His parents were both good but became corrupted. As a result, he is good as well. Unfortunately, he became corrupted and subscribed to evil. The result is this internal battle of good and evil that he experieces as schitzophrenia.
And, like so many of you, he will do EVERYTHING he is told. The difference is they will ask him because of his morbid disfavor.
Just like his mom::::She lit her own house on fire intentionally.
Thank you, all of you, for stealing my jewelry. The proceeds from disposition went into their pockets instead of the estate. And they intend to do the same with the house.
May I remind you they flew to the Far East and the SouthPacific during the 50s in the context of their employment. Access to nice jewelry dirt cheap was likely at their disposal.
It was better than Mexico in the 70s!!!
I wash my hands of you all. And it was very interesting how you corrupted your children to play a part, sitting them down to divy up the costume jewelry. Or how they scurried upstairs, as if by cue, when that lush was screaming in my face.
Enjoy your "alcoholic haze". Comes through LOUD AND CLEAR. Your employer thanked me for giving you this warning, so be prepared.
I wish I threw it in its face when it was screaming at me. I wonder if it would have shut it up?
Accept loss.