Wednesday, September 09, 2009

Kill interfering doctors

My colleague's diatribe below has started your humble Devil wondering... well, what the fuck can we do about it?

Having written a misdirected, rage-filled post, I have decided to take it down and to consider the issue a little more closely.

But I do think, if they disagree with the pronouncements of the patronising BMA, that doctors need to shout about that fact.

Perhaps we could start a website—http://thebmadoesnotspeakforme.com?—which doctors can sign up to, as a protest against the bastards.


UPDATE: Dr Crippen has pointed out that my outburst was, just possibly, a little but too broad. The good doctor has, in fact, criticised the BMA here, here, here and here, for example.

UPDATE 2: veteran blogger The Pedant-General—whose wife, incidentally, has been busyt launching her new Genius gluten-free bread—emails to ask if your humble Devil is ghost-writing for The Daily Mash...
As the British Medical Association called for a ban on thinking about alcohol, experts said it was time to start planning for a doctor-free society.

Professor Henry Brubaker, of the Institute for Studies, said: "Once again the BMA is talking about alcohol being a threat to 'public' health as if that's an actual thing.

"There is 'my' health, which is 'mine', and 'your' health which is 'yours', but there is no 'our' health. D'you see?

"And while there are individuals who can't handle their sherbert, why not deal with them as individuals instead of constantly demanding a tax on anything that hasn't already been banned and generally getting on my tits?"

The answer is, of course, that I am not ghost-writing for The Mash, but I do applaud every word of that amusing article. Especially that bit about telling your GP to "go piss up a rope"...

24 comments:

AndrewSouthLondon said...

"You can get treatment that is as good—or, in most cases, better—by going to A & E when you need it"

A&E is staffed by junior doctors in training, some of whom may go on to become GPs when they have completed their training and have enough experience to practice.

And you think this will get you better care?

You are usually on the nail, Devil, but just sometimes, you hit your thumb!

Martin said...

'...murderous empiricism and ignorant ambition everywhere now hold out traps for trusting pain' -

Citizen Doctor Antoine-Francois Fourcroy on the deregulation of medicine in revolutionary France, 1792, quoted in Colin Jones, 'The Great Nation'.

Just a thought. Those guys were also mad keen on destroying and humbling everything in sight.

Wossat? said...

Actually my GP enjoys the odd pint and chaser or two. He's an all round good bloke who doesn't lecture or judge and there's no way in hell I'm gonna destroy him. His partners are okay too.

It's the prohibitionist cunts that can go fuck themselves...

Nurse Anne said...

Um. No. A lot of really sick people get killed because of the non-urgent patients who use A&E as a clinic, and then piss and moan about waiting. People who behave like this are evil. I saw it cause big problems overseas, and I see it here in the UK.

A friend of mine and her colleagues once put a sign up in their very hectic US Emergency Department. "If you are well enough to complain, your ass ain't sick enough to be here"

Anonymous said...

Take care that they do not consign you to the NHS End of Life scheme when you are next in A&E, Devil.

Very very nasty business where they kill you by depriving you of liquids, and its all done without a proper independent process.

So, next time you pop into A&E with a nasty sore throat, just remember, they might just have your name on their list.

Anonymous said...

How come they never advocate banning adverts for drugs, whose side effects are known to kill and maim?

Guthrum said...

They call it the 'pathway scheme' in Liverpool

As in pathway to heaven

Anonymous said...

A blog too far for me I'm afraid. I though most of your rants were good but the standard recently has been dropping and this is one is just shite. Deleting your RSS feed from Firefox.
FAAD!

Traction Man said...

http://hospitalnotes.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

Devil - I'm 100% against the banning of ANY substance for personal use and I'm 100% against adults telling other adults what to do with their bodies. After that I disagree with what you're saying. I would rather pour MORE money into the NHS. Why? Because it's money better spent when compared to the truly disgusting things that it *could* be used for, like war.

I'm seriously considering not renewing my LPUK membership because of the Libertarian stance on social care. I'm going to look into it further but the NHS really is a deal breaker for me. My advice is to stop attacking it.

John B said...

Relatedly.

@Anonymous, if you think the NHS is a waste of money but less evil than spending it on war (which I'm broadly in agreement), why not lobby to, erm, cut taxes?

Frank Davis said...

I totally agree with the destruction of the the medical profession. I've been calling for it for years. They've got above themselves.

However it's really the top doctors who have to go, not the GPs. It's the likes of Sir Liam Donaldson who need to be shown the door. It's more the medical establishment than the medical profession.

Doctors need to be told that they work for us, and that we don't work for them. We are the masters, and they are the servants. Not the other way round.

The Boiling Frog said...

@Anonymous: "A blog too far for me I'm afraid. I though most of your rants were good but the standard recently has been dropping and this is one is just shite. Deleting your RSS feed from Firefox."

As you can't be bothered to put any kind of name against your 'rant', I doubt anyone will give a flying fuck.

Anonymous said...

Physicians are not doctors. To be a doctor you have to have a doctorate. A double undergrad degree in medicine is not a doctorate.

Fuck you, physicians. Fuck you.

Tom Finnie said...

Can't we just call it fuckthebma.com ?

Bishop Brennan said...

Unfortunately, I appear to have missed the Devil's rant.

Rather disappointed - whilst not ALL doctors are evil, I suspect that 80% of them are.

Didn't some form an alternative to the BMA recently? And there's Karol Sikora, who, although slightly mad, at least tells the truth about the NHS...

Oh, and I think we should launch an IanGilmoreMustDieNow.com website - or, perhaps, something more moderately titled - so that people can sign up and reinforce the message that he is an extremist nutter who is in a tiny minority. Aim for 1 million signatures and send it to the Health Select Committee and the Dept of Health, demanding that they stop giving him airtime and money.

6969 said...

Boiling Frog -

http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/2009/09/going-to-devil.html

Old Greeny said...

Aye...My Doc is similar to the one mentioned earlier...He drinks AND smokes, and knew immediately who I meant when I talked about "The Fascist Bitch" (Patrica Hewitt)...He tells me the FACTS, not the Party Line and lets me make my mind up. Top bloke..

Anonymous said...

yep 18% of the population in the UK end their life by dying from dehydration while sedated compared to 8% in other Western nations such as Belgium

such is the great care you get when you die (much earlier) in the UK

all endorsed by the BMA so quite why they think they can take the moral high ground is beyond me

AndrewSouthLondon said...

Anon 12.34: All medical "doctors" require registration with the General Medical Council, so they can be struck off and lose their right to practice if they do anything naughty, like shagging their patients, or worse, killing them. They are grouped into "physicians" or "surgeons" - the latter cut, the former don't.

Phd "doctors" can use the title Dr but unfortunately cannot be struck off anything, however useless they are. And plenty of them are utterly useless like Dr Caroline Lucas MEP, Creature from the Green Lagoon.

My GP is also a good chap. I suggest rather than boycotting the lot, change to a decent one - sort of like Market Forces at work.

Henry North London said...

Its the GMC and the medical establishment like the BMA that need to be fucked over

Some doctors are like robots parroting the party line They need reprogramming

WV untarse

Anonymous said...

re " rather than boycotting the lot, change to a decent one"

there is no choice of GP round here, such is the top down stalinist nature of the NHS, I would love to use another GP but its like it or lump it service NHS style we have to put up with

the sooner the NHS stops being a national religion the better

6969 said...

...couldn't resist coming back for a look, DK. Agree re the BMA. The Daily Mash is a great read. For what it's worth, I've added your RSS feed back into firefox.
Have a good one.

Anonymous said...

Please don't take the views of the BMA as being the views of all doctors in the UK.

I have been a doctor for 25 years, and have never been a member of the BMA. I wouldn't join this bunch of self-serving onanists if you paid me. They don't represent me or my views and I resent the fact the govt negotiate with them over MY pay and conditions even though I have never authorised them to do so.