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Friday, May 08, 2009

Only the sound of crickets chirping

Posted by Devil's Kitchen at 5/08/2009 02:35:00 PM

Listen: with all of the expenses scandals, can you hear the sound of the Opposition? Listen very carefully: go on...

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...

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Nope, I can't hear them either. As Guido points out, all of the usual attack dogs are strangely silent. Why are the Tories not pressing home the media's attacks on ministers' expenses? Why are the LibDims not shouting that it is totally disgraceful to fleece the taxpayer?

The only conclusion that we can draw is that all of these bastard MPs, regardless of political party, have their snouts firmly in the fucking trough—perhaps their silence is because they have their faces so deeply into the swill?

And all, no doubt, "within the rules". Fuck your rules, you corrupt cunts: didn't your highly developed "social consciences" tell you that what you were doing was wrong? that you were cheating the taxpayer? that you were indulging in fraud?

As Roger Thornhill has eloquently argued, what we have is an irredeemably corrupt political class , the members of which are utterly unable to distinguish the difference between what they can do and what they should do.

Dizzy speculates—given that this conflagration is going to burn the entire Westminster system, regardless of political party—that maybe independents will do better than expected in the next general election.
We've seen before how a scandal for a constituency MP can result in defeat to an independent. If all the three main parties in Parliament are pulled into this scandal nationally, and it then filters down locally, could we see a constituency ballots taking the "Plague On All Your Houses" approach and return more independent MPs running on transparency tickets?

Perhaps. Plus, of course, there is a party which has pledged transparency, and promised to publish all the expenses of its elected representatives on its website within 30 days of claim: the Libertarian Party UK.

It may be that this is the time for transparency, and it maybe that this scandal is the catalyst that will break the stranglehold of the big three parties. Perhaps this is the right time for you to join LPUK (and come together with members all over the country), or to donate to the party.

We are determined, and ready to stand: and our representatives will not rip you off, they won't piss your hard-earned cash up the wall. LPUK candidates know the difference between what they can do and what they should do...

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Posted by Devil's Kitchen at 5/08/2009 02:35:00 PM


12 Blogger Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hardly suprising that having spent good money for the info that the Labourgraph will save the best for last.

I'll bet that todays little lot were the least excessive and in the days to come the really bad stuff will emerge.

That's the best way to get their moneys worth.

5/08/2009 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay but is the Libertarian Party really ready for prime time? I don't disagree that mainstream parties had this coming but if the end result is a massive vote for the BNP then this could turn out to be a pyrrhic victory.

5/08/2009 04:08:00 PM  
Blogger john in cheshire said...

Vote Libertarian Party. yes, that's probably a good thing. I agree with a lot of what you stand for. Not totally committed to the immigration policy, mind. However, you are a voice speaking in the wilderness. You may think that people are waiting for your words only to turn from the mainstream parties en masse. It's not going to happen. If you have a lot of money and work your arses off for a hundred years, and the political climate doesn't change and...and... Then maybe. I think it was Lenin who said something like don't waste your time arguing with your opponents, get in power. Then you won't have to argue with them. Well, I think that politics in this country, England, has come to that. It is a waste of time arguing with socialists because you never going to persuade them of their erroneous views. The only way to defeat them, is to defeat them. They have espoused violence as a justifiable means of getting what they want - think back to the 1970s. The only way to get rid of them is to crush them physically. Now...who is there in this country who is willing and able to do this necessary task for us? Not you, not the Conservatives and certainly not the Libdems.

5/08/2009 04:13:00 PM  
Blogger The Young Oligarch said...

Don't want to disagree , DK , but I'm watching News 24 just now (I know , it's shite ) .
Cameron and Clegg are quite prominent in their complaints , although , to be fair , Cameron was quite mealey-mouthed , choosing his words very carefully .
He also acknowledged that his MPs were going to get tarred with this particular brush as well .
Clegg over-did the manufactured outrage a bit , but , as he has fewer MPs , he has less scandal to worry about .
Not quite the Sound of Silence which you portray .

5/08/2009 04:18:00 PM  
Blogger Toque said...

I was looking for the price of a "moral compass" on the John Lewis list.

Couldn't find one, they must have sold out.

5/08/2009 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh dear....How many elected representatives are we talking about???

5/08/2009 05:19:00 PM  
Blogger ConstantlyFurious said...

You're right - I'm wondering if Dave is sitting comfortably tonight - he and his chums are awfully quiet...

5/08/2009 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm amazed how Brown, Cameron and Clegg are all claiming that they have been saying for ever that the system needs changing, but none of them actually DID anything to reverse this snout in the troughism until it came into the public domain.

Well, it is the system that is wrong, that is all that needs changing. Nothing at all to do with a bunch of system-exploiting morality devoid porkers.

Loved hearing that the Telegraph are just producing a lot of 'innuendo and insinuation of wrongdoing without a single fact or piece of evidence to support it'. They just, of course, produced the evidence that the MPs produced when claiming. All as revealed by Lord (how did that happen) Mandelson, who knows all about the 'classic smear' techniques used by the Telegraph (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8040007.stm). Rich eh?

5/08/2009 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesn't LPUK commit to not claim on expenses, rather than to merely tell you that it has claimed?

...and to return any of the Parliamentary salary that isn't needed?

5/08/2009 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I joined a few months ago. Proud to be a member. Probably be 'disappeared' for it in the not-too-distant. sigh....

5/08/2009 08:27:00 PM  
Blogger Devil's Kitchen said...

Anon,

"Why doesn't LPUK commit to not claim on expenses, rather than to merely tell you that it has claimed?"Well, I can't speak for the party, but personally I don't see any problem in claiming actual expenses incurred in doing the job (as opposed to benefits in kind, i.e. perks); I claim them for my present job, I don't see why I shouldn't claim them in any other kind of work.

"...and to return any of the Parliamentary salary that isn't needed?"The salary is the salary: if I am doing the job for which I'm paid, then it is fair that I take the salary, no? Or do you return to your employer any of your salary that "isn't needed"?

I accept that being an MP (a good MP) can involve long hours doing tedious work, and I don't see the current salary level as being absurdly high; as such, it is fair that I should take the salary.

After all, who is to judge what is "needed" or not?

It is the personal enrichment from expenses -- which are not supposed to be a supplementary personal salary -- that I really object to.

DK

5/08/2009 11:15:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Much generated heat and media disgust. What will be significant is how many of these very well publicised claims will figure in evidence when the claimants appear in court of fraud charges>

As if.

5/09/2009 09:11:00 AM  

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