Sunday, March 08, 2009

It's time to tell the US...

... to go and suck on one of Ted Kennedy's IRA bombs, since they have now spelt out the relationship between themselves and Britain. [Emphasis mine.]
The real views of many in Obama administration were laid bare by a State Department official involved in planning the Brown visit, who reacted with fury when questioned by The Sunday Telegraph about why the event was so low-key.

The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship, saying: "There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment."

Fine, nor should you, fuckface. Now get knotted, you bunch of protectionist, interfering, imperialist tosspots.

UPDATE: commenter Budgie says this...
Whilst I generally agree with Anon 7:56pm, there is one point neither he nor DK acknowledge.

Which is that we, in Britain, have a strange habit of thinking that other countries will look after us.

The USA is a foreign country - we have no right to expect them to accommodate our views. Unless, of course, we actually start defending our own interests. Meaning we should only give up something when we get something in return.

The most glaring example of this mindset is our attitude to the EU. We have given up money, influence, national democracy and power - for no specific return whatsoever. And the europhiles think that France, Germany et al will be nice to us, when, of course, they simply look after their own interests, not ours.

Your humble Devil has, of course, made the point ad nauseam—in relation to the US and the EU—that our politicians lack testicles and are, essentially, spineless cowards who are more interested in getting their faces firmly in the trough than standing up for the interests of the people of this country.

There is a reason for that, you see: each and every one of them has nothing but total contempt for you and I; they couldn't give a fuck about what is best for us, but only what is best for their own fat bellies and fatter wallets.

Telling the US to go fuck itself would, of course, be indicative of the fact that someone who claims to speak for us had, in fact, grown a pair of balls and might, therefore, be someone worth voting for.

I have long said that it is the politicians who have contributed hugely to the malaise rampant throughout the people of this country; it is not the ordinary citizens—other than irritating students, university lecturers still yearning for Communism, and those who read The Guardian (sets which overlap and which are entirely enclosed by the set labelled "too naive, ignorant and stupid to live")—who moan about how we can't expect to order world affairs because we don't have the Empire anymore.

Fuck the Empire: it's of no consequence. Let us simply announce that we will buy anything and sell anything and with no restrictions; let us announce free trade and become the trading hub of the world. What need have we then of these protectionist, fading non-entities such as the US and the EU?

I would do precisely that, were I in such a position: I would bring pride back to the people of these isles and I would make Britain great again. But I have better things to do, at present, than to wallow in the slime as a politician.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Our relationship with America has always confused me. Despite being on the right, I've never felt much political or cultural kinship with the Americans.

I've never seen any advantage, either to ourselves or to the rest of the world, in our slavish devotion to America's cause du jour and I've never understood why people held up a country that's protectionist to its core, riddled with corruption and, at the highest levels, extremely undemocratic.

I'd like to pretend that American defecation on the Special Relationship is a new thing, but it really isn't. With the exception of Bush II, there's never been an American president who's treated this country with an ounce of respect (and, yes, I include Reagan in that).

Naturally, the star-spangled fucktards who just can't swallow enough of that American jizz will throw a hissy-fit upon reading this. They can go fuck themselves. I've lived in America, worked in America, married an American and I still don't see any benefit to Britain or anyone else from our so-called Special Relationship. And I know there are a couple of hundred families in this country who wish they hadn't been called upon to pay Bliar's "blood price" for the Special Relationship.

Old Holborn said...

Jack Straw has an unmoderated blog

Off you GO

Wossat? said...

Jack Straw has put moderation on his blog. The cunt!

Budgie said...

Whilst I generally agree with Anon 7:56pm, there is one point neither he nor DK acknowledge.

Which is that we, in Britain, have a strange habit of thinking that other countries will look after us.

The USA is a foreign country - we have no right to expect them to accommodate our views. Unless, of course, we actually start defending our own interests. Meaning we should only give up something when we get something in return.

The most glaring example of this mindset is our attitude to the EU. We have given up money, influence, national democracy and power - for no specific return whatsoever. And the europhiles think that France, Germany et al will be nice to us, when, of course, they simply look after their own interests, not ours.

Chris said...

"There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment."

Oh, and for the precious gift of 'American' constitutional liberty; you're welcome. Historically ignorant little ingrate turd of a politician. An ill-mannered scion of infinitely greater forebears.

Anonymous said...

@Budgie

I'm Anon of 7:56 and I agree with you heartily. We, in Britain, should cooperate with foreign countries where it is possible and where it is to our advantage but we should not follow anyone slavishly.

We should reject the kneejerk pro-Americanism of the righties just as we despise the kneejerk anti-Americanism of the lefties. We should embrace, instead, pro-Britishness - supporting British interests, British ethics and British people.

Verity said...

Agree with all above, especially the bit about declaring Britain a free trade zone. Anyone who has ever experienced the headiness of Hong Kong knows that free trade is exhilerates everyone. The Chinese understood this well, which is why they didn't change its free trade status when they took over.

Just as a little easy-to-remember measure: More people in HK drive Rolls Royces than anywhere else in the world. The place is rolling in gravy.

El Draque said...

Maybe change is on the way that will make us nostalgic for old certainties.
If the tectonic plates of world power are shifting, and the USA is no longer the source of wealth and power in the world, all bets are off.
The EU, more than it likes to imagine, is resting on this illusion - that the US will always protect them, and will always be there as a market.
And we have the illusion that the EU will protect us.
In fact we can only rely on ourselves.
If the mighty dollar is dethroned as the world's currency, and the EU collapses in ruin as a result, we will be glad to be an island with our own currency.

Anonymous said...

On behalf of the entire population of the United States of America, I apologize from the depths of my heart. We elected a person who has no experience running anything in his entire life. We made a massive mistake. It is very sad that within this upstart's first fifty days he managed to damage one of the most important relationships we have ever enjoyed. Again, we suck and I am sorry. And this won't be the last of the troubles either, I am afraid.

Eric Jacobson said...

"There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment."

I believe this comment was actually made by some State Department flunky, not the Big O himself (per the Daily Telegraph).

That said, as an American I can only apologize profusely for Barack Obama: the man is a non-entity, not even a 'community organizer', as the media characterize him (Obama's 'organizing' consisted in getting people signed up for various benefits programs). He idolizes himself as 'The Infallible One', but unfortunately, poor baby, he's simply 'too tired' from his job to be bothered with courtesy.

The world wanted 'change'; and by God we got it--a clown and fool who is so badly out of his depth that I predict he'll make Jimmy Carter look positively statesmanlike.

Anonymong66 said...

Dear Eric and Anon,

we're the last country in the world to lecture you on inflatable politicians (just a facade, nothing inside apart from hot air).

Mr T Bliar only provided leadership on one issue, what a shame that he chose Iraq.

Everything else was just empty fucking words...whilst Gorgon was burning our money by the skipload.

So, I feel your pain over the O, but am still concerned that CallMeDave Cameron will prove to be another vacuous windbag.

I really hope I'm wrong, but every day without any policy announcements erodes my optimism.

I hope the big O can turn things around, if not, you have our sympathies...

Obamacon said...

There is some links between us and America, even if it it comes down to family connections and alliances however faded by time. Probably not as "special" any more but I think we shouldn't forget some of what was done together.

But Obama is an astonishingly naive man, and his staff seem even less talented than his own helpless self. I get the impression he is struggling badly; perhaps he thought that presidency was simply going to more of what he did on the campaign trail. That once he took his jacket off in the oval office it would all fall into place. Well, the messiah thing possibly made him think some divine help would intercede. So far, there haven't been many shafts of light.

I admit having Glum Gordon turning up on his doorstep was probably less than he wanted as he tries to work out what he has to do and where it is all going pear-shaped. But somewhere along the line the Big O must have thought, or been told, that new alliances were needed. The old ones were so out of date.

But... maybe we should remember our newly-found independence when he needs more troops to try to defeat other tribes in order to protect US interests and ambitions. "Please do not ask for troops as a refusal often offends." I suspect he won't send many troops to help with our woes when they descend.

Gordon was even more miffed no doubt that a new socialist country more or less laughed in his face when he turned up. Just no unity like there used to be, sigh...

A free trade centre? I agree. But then we have Broon and co wanting to be screwed by the EU, so it would take quite a shift to get us really free to be independent.

Still, our PM has the DVDs...

leogex said...

Personally, I think it would be great if Britain and various other countries told us to 'fuck off'. Hubris is a dangerous thing and America,including most Americans,are filled with it to the gills.

Kim du Toit said...

Actually, I think that most conservative Americans would be appalled at the shoddy treatment meted out to Britain -- if they'd ever heard about it from the mainstream media, which of course they did not, because our MSM is essentially the Press Office of the Democrat Party and de facto fluffers of the 44th President.

I am incensed just by the thought of this half-Kenyan sending back the bust of Sir Winston (who, if a fair poll were taken, would prove to be far more popular with ordinary Americans than the aforesaid president).

Of course, the only thing I can offer in mitigation is that we were rude to Gordon Brown -- which surely deserves a conditional pardon, anyway.

On a more critical note, however: NuLabour has consistently, repeatedly and inexplicably allied itself with Euope and the EU more than with the U.S. (with some notable and praiseworthy exceptions, such as the war in Iraq and Afghanistan -- even though Britain is now puling forces out).

The EU was set up to be a "counter-weight" or competitor to the United States: so if you'd rather play with them than with us, that's fair play, and the best of British luck to you.

Let us know how it turns out.

Shug Niggurath said...

The only reason I can see for our politicians constantly bleating about a 'special relationship' with America is that we are fucked as a world power and unlikely to ever get up there again. We're one of the highest taxed, least free and most nannied societies in the developed world and we only have ourselves (or rather our parents and grandparents) to blame.

We decided to hand the responsibility for our lives over to the government in the post war years and ever since the government have consistently increased that dependence on them to the levels we are at today. We might share a common language and some old principles of freedom, but was it America who embraced socialism 60 years ago?

Looking in from the outside this country must look fucking awful, towns full of egalitarian buildings, filthy and unreliable transport, surly retailers and officious little pricks in peaked hats all over the place.

If I was an American I'd see a lot more to Australia and Canada than Britain in terms of shared foreign policy aims. What do you think Americans thought of our 'please don't bomb us' adverts in Pakistan, our navy being taken hostage by Iran or our police being chased down the streets by screaming muslim protesters?

What about our trendy liberal press who practically call for a fully socialist state?

Nah, we are far from being able to consider ourselves special. Until we decide our government is there to serve us instead of the other way around we'll have a much better relationship with the progressives in Europe than any society that does believe in personal responsibility.

Unsupervised said...

Well, this backward, God-believing, pistol-owning, jingoistic American still thinks you are "special" in a good way (not that you ride the short bus). I think that the State Department dork should be identified by name and be called to task for his undiplomatic statement.
Fun site, by the way.