Saturday, January 17, 2009

Tell us something we don't know...

It seems that Lord Digby-Jones has been reporting back, to a committee of MPs, on his experiences as a junior minister.
The ex-CBI chief described being a junior minister as "one of the most dehumanising and depersonalising experiences" anyone could have.

Lord Jones spent a year as a minister as part of Gordon Brown's original "government of all the talents".

Lord Jones said he applauded the practice of bringing outside specialists into government by making them peers and called it "an excellent idea".

No shit. Nice to see that the magic of a peerage continues to ensure that the man is grateful.
He described the civil service as "honest, stuffed full of decent people who work hard".

Yes. And...?
But he added: "Frankly the job could be done with half as many, it could be more productive, more efficient, it could deliver a lot more value for money for the taxpayer.

"I was amazed, quite frankly, at how many people deserved the sack and yet that was the one threat that they never ever worked under, because it doesn't exist."

Well, I think that we all knew that, frankly. Most of us know, or have known, people who work in the Civil Service and whilst (for the interesting posts) you have to be quite clever to get in, it is generally absolutely impossible to get sacked (unless you're a blogger, of course).

Furthermore, from the experience of friends that I have in the Service, they seem to spend so much time stabbing other people in the back whilst simultaneously attempting to avoid having a blade slipped between their own ribs that I am astonished that they manage to get any work done at all.

The Nameless Libertarian looks enviously on...
The threat of the sack doesn't exist. Sheesh. Proof, if any further proof was needed, that the public and private sector are not just worlds, but universes, apart. As so many people look down the barrel of a gun marked called "redundancy", I can't help but look at jobs in the public sector with a degree of envy. And the phrase "if you can't beat them, join them" is swimming through my mind.

Well, it isn't running through my mind: working for the Civil Service sounds like absolute hell. Not only are you spending most of your time playing internal politics, but you are also doing piss-all of any worth; and what substantial work you are doing is contributing to the erosion of the freedoms of your fellow countrymen.

Fuck that for a game of soldiers. I'll stick with my small private company whilst putting forward all of my powers to ensure that it is as efficient as possible and that it survives through these difficult times.

In the meantime, I think that we have found the reason why government never seems to be able to cut state spending: you see, you actually have to sack people and concentrate the minds and resources of those who are left...


Earthlet Nigel said...

The box-ticking-following-procedure reigns supreme.

In a recent conversation with one of these super-wankers they admitted they cannot excercise commonsense for fear of showing their "superiors" up for what they are:-Tossers, seems to be about the only thing they can be sacked for, other than those who get pissed off and blow the whistle, generally resulting in a gagging order being brought against them.
(See Haringey, baby P.)

Oh and as for not naming the cunts the MPA site listed their names.

DavidNcl said...

"honest, stuffed full of decent people who work hard"


Half criminal low-lifes and pervs who couldn't get a job anywhere else dozing their way through the day. Or at least it was 30 years ago when I was a state employee. I imagine its much much worse now.

See for example:

Any others that made it into the media?

fewqwer said...

Not only are you spending most of your time playing internal politics, but you are also doing piss-all of any worth; and what substantial work you are doing is contributing to the erosion of the freedoms of your fellow countrymen.

You evidently lack the required instinct for parasitism.

Idle Pen Pusher said...

I blogged about public sector jobs on Wednesday

I was glad to see Lord Jones guess at the same figure, 50%, as I did...

The Nameless Libertarian said...

Yeah, I've come to the conclusion that whatever is left of my soul and morality would be utterly destroyed by joining the Civil Service. I'd have job security, but would despise myself at the same time.

Which doesn't sound like a great idea!


Anonymous said...

I joined the over staffed group known as local government a few years ago. It is very scarey - but unlike the rest of the political class, I knew there was a recession comming, and this is the safest place to be!

I plan to leave in 2013-14 when the economy is back to health, but I do worry that I am losing a little of my private sector edge every day.

The worst part is the unions - they are everywhere, and it makes you realise what the UK of the 1970's must have been like!

Robin said...

I saw a disgusting U Tube style piece where Chinese fur traders were literally skinning an animal while it was live.Made me almost join PETA and other greenie groups.
Still too good a death for a senior civil servant though.

Shug Niggurath said...

On this I am with both Waterhouse and Littlejohn (if that makes me a Daily Mail reader, so be it).

30 years ago the civil service and local government existed to provice, well, civil service and local government. Now it exists to provide only for itself.

But see when the cuts come, it'll be doctors n nurses, schools n ospitals.

Why oh why will it not be quangos, management consultants and floor maintainence engineering supervisory key workers?

DaveA said...

I am always reminded of the Two Ronnies joke. Civil servants have been banned from looking out of the windows in the morning... so they have something to do n the afternoon.

Well done to Lord Digby-Jones for speaking the truth.

The Great Simpleton said...

Its worse than no sackings; when was the last tile you heard of a diktat going out saying 10% headcount resuction?

If a large private organisations balance sheet was so bad the CEO, if he wanted to keep his job, would have walked in to his senior management meeting some time ago and said:

1. All consultants and contractors gone. Today. Fight them in the courts if necessary.

2. 10% headcount reduction. (This isn't so easy because of TUPE)Anyone who wants to make a headline by dismissing doctors, nurses and teachers better be able to make sure they reach their own targets.

3. Recruiting ban. CEO to sign off all recruitment

Right, where were we?

Mac the Knife said...

"it is generally absolutely impossible to get sacked"

Not so DK, two of my colleagues got shitcanned in the first two years of my service. One for corruption and one for rendering himself compellable by getting into debt.

The rest of us are too far down the food chain to be involved in Machiavelli bullshit, but are being driven gradually mad by political interference and shit-hopeless management.