Wednesday, November 12, 2008

Who is Jon Gaunt?

(nb. I am not DK)

A radio presenter called Jon Gaunt has landed in the shit after having an argument with some anti-smoking wingnut on his talk show. According to The Independent, Gaunt is "one of the country's most famous shock-jocks, notorious for his right-wing views, abrasive style and refusal to pull any punches in the fight against political correctness".

He presents - or rather, presented - a phone-in on TalkSport and is a columnist for The Sun. It doesn't take a genius to work out that his radio show is going to be boisterous, populist and confrontational. Gaunt's crime is to have called some nasty, mean-spirited cunt a "Nazi" and an "ignorant pig". After the usual few days of delay (see Ross/Brand), he has been suspended while the radio station "investigates" the matter.

The nasty, mean-spirited cunt in question was Councillor Michael Stark, who was on the show to defend his disgusting policy of banning smokers from fostering children in whichever miserable part of London he has gained power.

In any debate, calling your opponent a Nazi is a lazy way of scoring points and I shall not do so here, especially since there are so many suitable profanities crying out to be used. Still, if the cap fits, wear it, and if the nasty, mean-spirited cunt doesn't like being called a Nazi then he shouldn't go around acting like one. And since it was Hitler's mob who invented the concept of passive smoking and launched the biggest anti-smoking campaign in history, he would be better off shutting his fucking mouth rather than moaning about his feelings being hurt (admittedly, the Nazis' anti-smoking campaign didn't go as far as this evil, slimy piece of scum wants to go, hey, they ran out of time).

During the conversation, the nasty, mean-spirited cunt took umbrage at being called a Nazi and Gaunt apologised, saying - in a lovely piece of diplomacy - that he only meant to call him a "Health Nazi". He then explained:
"It's something very close to my heart. I did lose my rag with him. I wish I hadn't but I did."

This wasn't good enough for the nasty, mean-spirited cunt who went crying like a bitch to the local rag:
"His remarks are totally unacceptable...

What isn't these days?
...and probably illegal."

"Probably"? Even the fucking politicians can't keep up with what you can and cannot say after 11 years of NuLabour. Last time I checked, it wasn't a criminal offence to argue with a politician but who knows for sure? Either way, shut up and grow a pair.

As Greg Beaman points out:
The PC brigade throw the word "Nazi" at anybody who they disagree with, whether they do show sympathies towards the National Socialist German Workers' Party or not. Why such uproar when one of the PC brigade gets it thrown back at them?

Because it touches a nerve? Calling someone a Nazi is not illegal, at least not yet. People understand that it is an insult, pure and simple, not a genuine accusation. Everyone knows it is shorthand for an authoritarian and a totalitarian. But 'fascist' and 'Nazi' have a bit more bite than, say, 'Stalinist' does. It's rude, maybe, but not illegal. How quickly the distinction between the two is becoming blurred.

The nauseating twat whined on:
"But I'm more concerned about the welfare of children in our care."

Are you? Are you really? Let's get something straight, Stark, you revolting little bigot. There are 60,000 children in this country who are looking for a foster home. If this vile, discriminatory policy is taken nationwide, many thousands of them will be denied life with a normal family and will be stuck with social services.

That is why charities like the Fostering Network and Children First disagree with banning smokers from fostering children. They know what they're talking about because they actually work with foster families and foster children. The nasty, mean-spirited cunt doesn't. He just wants to extend smoking bans into private homes and get his fucking face in the paper because he is a nasty, mean-spirited, vicious, bullying, authoritarian, power-crazed, vindictive, uncaring, fat-headed, small-minded, cowardly cunt.

But when he met Jon Gaunt, he met a man who actually cared about the issue because he had been a foster child himself. That's why it was, as he said, "very close to his heart". In fact, he had just written about it in his newspaper column:
The woman who rescued me from care, and undoubtedly turned me around as a child, smoked like a chimney but she was also a hospital matron.

She lavished love, care and, most importantly, discipline on me.

Without her I wouldn’t be where I am today and I wouldn’t be half the man and father I am. It’s not over the top to state that she saved me — and I love her for that.

And as for the "health Nazis":
The zealots who dreamed up this policy will sleep easy on their futons because they are putting the “health needs” of kids in care first.

This is the same warped logic that condemns black children to a life in care rather than let them be fostered by white couples.

The same master race philosophy that forbids fat couples from adopting.

The SS — that is social services by the way — think the risk from passive smoking is more dangerous to a child than them being left to rot in a children’s home.

They should understand that most parents realise the dangers and wouldn’t smoke in an enclosed space with children around.

Foster parents are no different.

The "dangers" from passive smoking range somewhere between miniscule and fraudulent but that is another story. As Gaunt pointed out, most children would not be "exposed" to it anyway. Why not just ask foster parents not to smoke around the children?

The nasty, mean-spirited cunt's response to this point was typical of his totalitarian attitude:
"The problem with his suggestion of carers leaving the house to smoke is that it's extremely difficult to monitor something like that."

Bloody privacy laws, eh? What a nuisance they are.

Of course, it is also "extremely difficult to monitor" whether any parent smokes in their own home but I've got some lovely marshland to sell to anybody who seriously thinks that a total domestic ban won't be the next step after this bullshit has bedded in. And that, of course, is what all this is really about. Once these corrupt fuckers have set out their stall by banning foster parents from smoking, it won't be too much of a push to ban natural parents from smoking.

And "monitoring" the law needn't be too much of a problem. The simplest way would be to get the children to report smoking offences to their teachers or the police. They could be rewarded with sweets and toys if they inform on their parents. A little propaganda might be needed to convince the kids that its the right thing to do, but that shouldn't be too hard.

That wouldn't be so unreasonable would it?
They just want to protect the children. It's not like they're Nazis or anything.

38 comments:

Michael said...

I assume you mean their 10-1 slot in the morning, their late night 10-1 slot ironically was James Whale's, someone else who has been taken off the air.

While Gaunt was annoying sometimes, he certainly was better than BBC 5 Dead, and did have a good debate and it was usually entertaining, especially when some twat like Stark or other councillor or quango person came on defend some stupid policy.

I suppose he tried to carry on what Dickin before him had done, and what showed talkSPORT to be a thorn in the side of the Govt, is that Blair/Brown never came on their station yet everyone else did, obviously used to the nice ride the BBC gave them.

Whether or not that will continue is debatable, seems we're not to say anything these days...

xelent said...

The spirit of Mosely lives on in the Britain..

Faux outrage, like the Daily Mail..

Anonymous said...

Good post. Given the outrageously poor outcomes for children in care, loving foster parents - whether smokers or not - are a vastly preferable alternative.

Incidentally, you might replace "real parents" with "natural parents" or similar.

Anonymous said...

Oh dear Oh dear. Another tiny tip-toey step towards a fully sanitized socialist utopia if he is thrown off the air.

Poor old UK I really think we are fucked.

Rob said...

"he is a nasty, mean-spirited, vicious, bullying, authoritarian, power-crazed, vindictive, uncaring, fat-headed, small-minded, cowardly cunt."

So, a Nazi then. Doh!

The Filthy Smoker said...

Thanks Michael, my mistake. I'm not familiar with "Gaunty" but he must be an improvement on Victoria Derbyshire.
And thanks Anonymous 10.45, I've corrected the post accordingly.

Anonymous said...

Great post.

Once it starts it doesn't take long for state controlled, encouraged and sanctioned bullying to take hold does it..

..I see the PM is now accusing Cameron of party politics. Bloody hell fancy that - in the house of commons too - how distasteful.

This from the party that had all their ministers on TV on Remembrance Day, pumping out the vile, opportunistic line that we were apparently 'celebrating' what our troops 'continue to do to this day in far off places around the World..'

No fuckers we were not. We were remembering the ultimate sacrifice of our citizens and soldiers made because wankers like you fuck up again and again and again.

When the films of this time in Britain are made in 40 or 60 years time, will the bad guys all have Scottish accents I wonder...Or vill the Nazis still talk like ziss?

Vee vill maeke you pay for zat meeester Cameron. Yah..?

George said...

"Our cameras have detected cigarette smoke coming from your residence. We also have on file that you are fostering a child. It is now our policy to remove that child from your care... Butch, Dave, advance on them..."

Wrinkled Weasel said...

4,637 people were adopted in 2007, a very low figure. The reasons given for this are the rise in abortions and, according to the Telegraph:

"because politically correct councils are turning away white couples who want to raise vulnerable children from different backgrounds."

The article continued:

Last week a High Court judge branded one town hall "bizarre" for banning a married Christian couple from looking after the half-sister of their adopted son, mainly because they believe in smacking to punish bad behaviour."

I am not sure I can recall a time when local authorities were so out of touch with the public will.

As for smoking, I am, as ever at odds with the majority on this blog. Smoking kills people. It kills thousands of people; more than terrorism and more than RTAs and more than Tony Blair.

Every year, about 80,000 people die of smoking related diseases. It is your right to smoke. I would never be a party to a ban. But this about giving a child a smoke-free environment, and a role model. In the circumstances I can understand a local authority's reluctance to chose a home with smokers in it.

Dick Puddlecote said...

Wrinkled Weasel: So let them rot in council care instead then, eh? Good Grief! (plus your stats are bollocks)

Filthy Smoker: You should be ashamed of yourself, you didn't call Cllr Stark a cunt enough. The Nazi Cunt.

word ver: resesse ... so we're on hols then? Cool. :-)

Anonymous said...

My sentiments exactly. Brilliant piece!

Jay said...

Over on the Taking Liberties blog, Simon Clark has given contact details if you want to complain to Talksport about the suspension.

Trixy said...

I'd rather a child was brought up by a smoker than this monstrous example of sub-human.

Of course, one answer could be to have buildings where people could all meet and smoke. Hell, they might even have a drink as well and talk to other people. That way there'd be fewer people smoking in their homes and standing huddled on pavements. Just a thought...

The Penguin said...

Well written piece.

The Penguin
Oenguinus Notasmokermyselfbutitssupposedtobeafreeworld

Letters From A Tory said...

When calling someone a Nazi becomes illegal, it's time to move to Australia - permanently.

Dave said...

"because he is a nasty, mean-spirited, vicious, bullying, authoritarian, power-crazed, vindictive, uncaring, fat-headed, small-minded, cowardly cunt."

Tell us what you really think DK!

Anonymous said...

"because he is a nasty, mean-spirited, vicious, bullying, authoritarian, power-crazed, vindictive, uncaring, fat-headed, small-minded, cowardly cunt."

Yes yes thats enough about Jon Gaunt, what about the other bloke ?

James Whale has moved to LBC.

Anonymous said...

Wrinkled Weasel said:

"...In the circumstances I can understand a local authority's reluctance to chose a home with smokers in it".

Well, I can't. If they have a line of non-smoking parents waiting behind then I would take your point, but once you've discounted the couples that are too old or too middle class or too white or too conservative what are you left with? A few immigrants from Somalia, two teachers back from a hiking trip in Afghanistan and a hundred lesbians called Hanna & Felicitia..

Anyway, everyone has a vice. After all, ice cream kills people too you know, as does lack of exercise. In fact, believe it or not, we are ALL slowly dying right now even after taking the multi-vitamins and drinking bottled water by the gallon. It can't be stopped, although I hear our Great Leader is thinking about staging a G20 Summit with God to sort him out on the subject.

Is the next restriction going to be on parents who watch too much telly perhaps? (actually, if restrictions on others is to be pursued then that would have a far more beneficial impact).

Of course, as yet, no-one is trying to suggest that one can suffer from passive eating - how long I wonder? But I suspect that letting the kids slump in front of the telly or their PS2 will have a more detrimental effect on their health than the fact that their Mum or Dad smokes.

It's all about proportionality surely. I'm sure a little lad would rather be brought up in a loving home with a slight aroma of tobacco than spend his young life in a state run home, all his data and DNA carefully collected and filed for his later journey to the young offenders' institution and then prison and a life on benefits. Why be allowed a loving home with filthy evil smokers when the alternative is to be buggered senseless by the resident smoke-free paedo before graduating to a life of drugs and crime...?

I grew up in the late sixties and seventies. Both my parents smoked (between attempts to quit) and I can still recall my mother standing in the doorway after finishing her latest family chore. I hated smoking. I hated the acrid smell. For that very reason I have never smoked. My brother hated it too but relented to peer pressure at college and now smokes like a chimney. Both of us are, so far, healthy and alive, one of us smokes, one does not. So what discernable effect did our parent's smoking habits have on us?

I hate football too, and Nu-Labour, but I don't go around trying to ban it or ban the protaganists of each from adopting children. Each to their own. That used to be what we said in this country and for that very reason we used to have a reputation for courtesy and tolerance.

The Labour Lefties recently acknowledges that 'we got it wrong' on multi-culturalism - they are wrong on this too and much much more.

The thought police should fuck right off!

Mike Power said...

Wrinkled Weasel: "...this about giving a child a smoke-free environment, and a role model."

So that would exclude living in The Whitehouse with the Obama's as foster parents then? (Barack Obama is a smoker)

Do the yanks realise what an awful role model thay have just elected? Jeez! Give me a break.

Mike Power said...

Yes, I meant "The White House" not the dead, puritanical, old anti-porn campaigner.

Anonymous said...

If anyone would like to tell the odious Mr Stark just what a mean-spirited Nazi cunt he is, he can be reached on michael.stark@redbridge.gov.uk.

Ian_QT said...

@dave: This post was by The Filthy Smoker, not DK.

Deep Throat said...

Guant deserves a medal for not decking the Nazi Cunt.

monoi said...

I can't believe it!! This is my councillor you're talking about, and I can tell you that he has not gained power from a miserable part of London, far from it (Woodford Green for the curious ones!).

Anyway, last area meeting I attended, I had an argument with that idiot to the point where he was told to shut it by the chairman, and he came and apologized to me afterwards, and gave me his phone number...

He is a bitter little man, I can tell you.

I shall be present at the next meeting and ask him questions about this...

If people here have suggestions as to the wording of those questions, I am open to suggestions...

Wrinkled Weasel said...

All I said was, "I can understand their reluctance". I did not condone their stance, anymore than I condone their attitude to white middle class heterosexual Christians. I also gave suggestions as to why there were no kids waiting for good homes - one being the high level of abortions and the other being the mindset of the local authorities.

As social pariahs, some of you might be a little more enlightened about the way society is moving. We are in the grip of a highly mutable kind of relativism. It means that social values are forever changing - sometimes in 180 degree turns - according to the axis of hegemony and who controls the dialectic.

Presently the dialectic is narrowed to what is acceptable within a left-leaning nihilistic discourse. (Yes, I AM saying that those who call us nihilistic ARE the nihilists) I am also saying that those who sent copies of "1984" were engaging in a highly moral act (If they understand the book, that is).

Your reading list for today is:
Paulo Freire - The Pedagogy of the Opressed.

and

Simone Weil: "In Switzerland they had brotherly love, five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did they produce? The cuckoo clock!"

They both come from the Marxist/Anarcho Syndicalist tradition, but you will find that their discourse is a drawn sword to political correctness and cultural fascism.

(Please don't bother to reply to this if all you want to do is call me a cunt. I am trying to build a thread that has some heuristic value, not score points.)

Anonymous said...

On balance I disagree with banning smokers from fostering where the alternative is there not being a suitable foster home at all.

Your blog entry is, however, quite over the top in its reaction to Cllr Stark's views.

JPT said...

Gaunt's got pretty right wing views (relatively speaking) that certainly wouldn't for example be tolerated on the 'right on' BBC.

He's also a bit of a pain in the arse and gets under people's skin.


He's been saying for a while now 'make the most of me before they ban me...'

Shaun said...

Weren't the Nazis the first in the world to ban smoking in public places?

Wikipedia says yes:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_ban#Smoking_bans_by_country

"The first modern, nationwide tobacco ban was imposed by the Nazi Party in every German university, post office, military hospital and Nazi Party office, under the auspices of Karl Astel's Institute for Tobacco Hazards Research, created in 1941 under orders from Adolf Hitler.[23] Major anti-tobacco campaigns were widely broadcast by the Nazis until the demise of the regime in 1945."

Which would surely make Gaunt's comments relevent and not actionable!

Pat said...

Surely the best point to be made to the councilor was that since he was advocating the same policy as Hitler it is entirely reasonable to assume he had similar political views.

Anonymous said...

Good for you not stooping to the level of calling someone a Nazi. Instead you call him a cunt. If you had kids, you'd probably not want to expose them to second hand smoke on a regular basis? And if you didn't care then you're just confirming that you're the cunt.

cookie said...

Jon Gaunt's show is (was?) something genuinely different from the soft-left bilge we are served by the majority of the UKs radio and terrestrial TV media. I disagree with him about 50% of the time, but he is (usually) quite balanced (not that it matters to me how 'balanced' he is) and certainly provides one of the very few ways in this country for the 'common man' to get his voice heard. For him to be forced out over such a trivial point would be worrying and a real sign of the decline in this country of the freedom to express and communicate ideas. Yes, calling someone a 'nazi' is not the smartest rebuttal, but so what? If we only allowed those with the wit of Oscar Wilde on the radio the airwaves would be empty.

lucia said...

Cllr Stark has a brain, but hasn't used it in his Council work for many years.

I know, because I've been acquainted with him for many years.

Umbongo said...

WW

Look if you're going to use long words and quotes, get it right. For instance, it wasn't Simone Weil talking about the Swiss and cuckoo clocks, it was Orson Welles in "The Third Man". And I'm pretty sure the word is spelled "oppressed".

Wrinkled Weasel said...

Umbongo.

Yes, and I expect you think that The William Tell Overture is really "The Lone Ranger" theme tune.

I am aware that Orson Welles borrowed the speech (it was improvised during the shoot) - Simone Weil is credited with it and she died before "The Third Man" was even scripted. Accordingly, I think you will find that I am correct about the quote and that you are an ignorant cunt. Please don't fuck with me. I am a lot cleverer than you and frankly I give turds on my shoe more credence than anonymous nobodies.

If you can't cope with "long words" can I respectfully suggest that you try and read a book with no pictures in it, or, go and fuck yourself. The choice is yours.

Anonymous said...

Great response to Umbongo. Revealing who the cunt really is.

Anonymous said...

Stark is a Nazi, but the irony is that so is Gaunt.

Butch

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Anonymous said...

Jon Gaunt is a cunt