Friday, October 10, 2008

Something to annoy everyone...

... from The Macalope...
Hurray! After 9 long years of waiting, Apple has received a patent for perhaps the most maligned feature of OS X—the Dock. This may seem like good news to some, but think about the consequences, people. Now Microsoft will now be forced to come up with something on their own. Can you imagine what an eyesore that’s going to be? Do we really wish that kind of pain on even our Windows-using brethren?

Ha-ha! Of course we do. But, still, this just drags the overall state of operating system competition further into the gutter. Mark the Macalope’s words, soon we’ll be launching applications by hooting and throwing bones at the screen.

Kind of like Linux users do now.

Ha!

24 comments:

Panopticon Britain said...

I can only imagine it's a slightly less shit version of this damn toolbar I get on my Vista machine (which, as soon as I dig out my XP discs, won't be running Vista any longer).

Eff Vista, Eff Microsoft.

johnny nunsuch said...

Apart from keeping you dry in the rain what use is a mac?

Obnoxio The Clown said...

Ubuntu is your friend.

knirirr said...

As it happens I launch applications on my Mac and Linux machines in exactly the same way. Only if I am forced to use a Windows machine am I forced to click on icons all the time.

permex said...

"Only if I am forced to use a Windows machine am I forced to click on icons all the time."


Oh, Diddums den....bwahahahahoooo..

fewqwer said...

I've been using Ubuntu Linux for over a year now - there is simply no turning back once you 'get it'.

The install CD provides the option to install to a big file on your Windows system, allowing you to remove it like a normal app if you so desire.

knirirr said...

Oh, Diddums ...


Yes, it's a terrible fate. I don't know how I can possibly stand the strain of using and supporting various different operating systems and interfaces.

Sarcasm aside, one advantage of Windows over OS X is that it's a bit easier to get this sort of thing to run on it. Not that that would be a recommendation for readers of this blog...

Anonymous said...

Docks are for sailors.

Ian B said...

Can there be a clearer example of the disaster that the patenting system, which was started with all the best of intentions, has collapsed into? It was supposed to guarantee remuneration for somebody who spent years tinkering in their shed making a better mousetrap.

I have to admit, I can't stand Macs. It's nothing to do with the computers. Fine computers. It's the asshats who buy them. Sit there in their black turtlenecks fiddling with their iThings, praising Apple. Posey left-of-centre centrist globalist vote New Labour vote Democrat I'm not a socialist I'm a liberal assholes.

The Mac is the statist computer. The PC is the libertarian computer. Look at the PC- open standards accidentally developed by the market, massive competition, a box of bits you can fiddle with and customise to your own individual wants. Then look at the Mac. Designed for you. Tells you want you need, and gives you it. It's an expertist computer, a progressive computer, a computer for people who need to be told everything by people Wiser Than They. It's the computer that fears the anarchy of free will. It's everything that's wrong with society today- costs more, no choice, anyone who doesn't like what they're told to like is a dangerous noncomformist.

Fucking Macs. Fucking hateful.

Devil's Kitchen said...

Ian b,

I would try to expand on why your assessment is so wrong as to be wilful, but I simply can't be bothered. You'll just write it off as the ravings of a brain-washed Mac evangelist.

Suffice to say, however, that you are arguing from a position of utter ignorance.

DK

fewqwer said...

Very well said Ian B. That's my perception of Macs too, though I could never put it quite so eloquently.

It certainly seems to be the way Macs are marketed.

Anonymous said...

Ubuntu does everything I want, and the machine and OS cost me virtually nothing. Oh, and for balance, I'm posting this from a 3G iPhone.

Mal Ware said...

Ian B's frothing rant sounds like the squeal of a man who is angry his choice of tool - in this case a computer - turned out to be the wrong one. He got the one that has zillions of bugs and viruses and until it copies Apple designs, always wants to look like it's designed by a fridge manufacturer who believed the Edsel was a cool machine.

But each to their own. However as a Mac user, I'm "statist" apparently. Really?

Interesting... I rather thought PCs users were that: they are told they ought to buy a computer and think that as there is only a PC (after all, that is all they have at work and their IT people can't be wrong can they? And PC World has shedloads of them, too) so there's no point in thinking of anything else. No point in thinking there might be an alternative at all.

And yes, I agree that PCs are in schools, so all the kids can learn about excel spreadsheets and office and think this is what computers are all about. I mean, who'd want to do anything fun or creative?

(Damn, Office is available for macs too... hell, the PC advantage has just been nullified... never mind)

But to borrow from Ian's carefully considered opinion; Fucking PCs, Fucking pathetic.

There you go Ian, get stewing again.

Devil's Kitchen said...

Oh dear. OK, I see that I shall have to try to correct some perceptions after all. Where to start?

1) There is no monopoly in computing. The state is a monopoly, so that perception is false to begin with.

2) That's the first time I've been called a "left-of-centre centrist globalist vote New Labour vote Democrat I'm not a socialist I'm a liberal asshole", I must say (although I do agree to an extent on this point).

3) You do have choice in the Mac that you get if you order online. Fuck me, you can even upgrade most of the components yourself, if you are a "I want to build my own computer" freak.

4) I don't want to build my own computer, because I'm not a fucking freak: I want to use my computer as a tool for doing other things.

5) "The Mac is the statist computer. The PC is the libertarian computer. Look at the PC- open standards accidentally developed by the market, massive competition, a box of bits you can fiddle with and customise to your own individual wants."

Fuck me, where to start with this load of old cock?

In the early 90s, Apple were using some proprietory connections -- Apple DB and Apple serial, for instance -- but the main connection, SCSI, was an open standard (and still unbeatable for speed, although very expensive).

However, if you are going to lump PCs together as one big enterprise, then we could equally say that PC serial, Parallel printer ports, the woefully inadequate ATA were proprietory too.

In the late 90s, it was Apple that promoted the now ubiquitous USB (by making it the only connection (bar Firewire) on the iMac. Intel had all but given up on USB up to that point.

Seriously, if you think that there was a free market (or even much of a market) in connections, you're not only an arse but you are unaware of how these standards get made into... well... standards.

6) "Then look at the Mac. Designed for you. Tells you want you need, and gives you it. It's an expertist computer, a progressive computer, a computer for people who need to be told everything by people Wiser Than They. It's the computer that fears the anarchy of free will. It's everything that's wrong with society today- costs more, no choice, anyone who doesn't like what they're told to like is a dangerous noncomformist."

Of course, Windows doesn't do this at all, does it?

And fucking Linux? There is such a thing as too much choice, particularly when you are dealing with a fucking tool and not a system of government.

Of course, for those of us who like to fiddle with things occasionally, that statist Mac does allow us to run both Linux and Windows as well as Mac OS.

And then there are many, many ways to do any individual task on the Mac. There aren't any fucking Wizards (god, I hate fucking Wizards. They are the A*s of computing: a tacit acknowledgement that your whole system is fucking shit).

I can even programme stuff into the Terminal window, if I wanted to be a geek extraordinaire (occasionally I do).

I could go on, but I'm not going to right now.

Oh, except to say that Macs are not more expensive than all similarly speched systems: they tend to be far cheaper than Sony, for instance.

They don't do bottom of the line machines: good. The last thing that I, as a Mac user, want is for every twit to take up a Mac because I'm quite enjoying life without viruses and spyware. I'd be happy for Apple to get to about 10% market share and then stop, thanks.

DK

Anonymous said...

I've used a Mac, trying to help someone who was on a wimmin's access course or something equally hackned, but I could not help her fix stuff as the hardware docs referenced Windows, and said something like "it should work on a mac". To be honest life is to short to fix stuff for the sandle eaters of this world so they can feel superior cos they use mac.

Enjoy your big macs, you are the victims of marketing, and you don't even realise it.

Oh and for a long while this blog looked like shit in IE on a PC, but I guess it never got checked cos it was "evil microsoft" which about 90% of us use. Anyway, kept me in a living for many years as a freelance programmer ;-)

Anonymous said...

Mac users

nbc said...

@Panopticon britian

Why not customise your desktop start menu?

I agree that the Vista start menu is crap, but it is easy to remove.

xelent said...

Well..

I love my Mac's... I got 3 of them... However I also have a desktop & Laptop PC too, using Vista...

However, I think Vista is a great OS and far better than XP... My only bug bear with it,

1 Doesn’t support multispanning on dual monitors.

2 My scanner/draw pad drivers were never updated. (work with Mac)

There is nothing statist about Mac's equally as much as Microsoft aren’t a monopoly... Microsoft just happened to corner the market with a product that the laymen could understand very easily on cheap kit... Macs just improved on the same formula with improved hardware and enhanced software...

To be honest, the gap is closing between Macs and PC's now... PC architecture has improved enormously as will the OS eventually...

IMO both Apple & Microsoft have brought amazing production savers to the market... Which in real terms have brought wealth to us all...

archduke said...

the avant window manager is a reasonable emulation of the OS X doc , on Linux:

http://www.internetling.com/wp-content/awn.png

more screenshots here:

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=avant%20window%20manager&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

David Gillies said...

I've been programming computers since most of you lot were still shitting in your pants (in Ian B's case this admittedly might well have been into his late teens) and I can tell you from a position of absolutely unchallengeable superiority that Mac OS X is the finest desktop operating system, from a software engineer's perspective, that exists or is likely to exist (save for subsequent big-cat releases). Linux, in terms of actually creating applications, is a close second. Windows trails very, very far behind. Building feature-rich GUI applications under OS X is a snap. The same holds true for Qt-based apps under Linux. Building equivalently-capable products under Windows can only be justified under a market share argument. If one is platform-neutral, then it makes no sense to go Windows. Compared to Cocoa and Qt, .NET is an embarrassingly huge bag of shite (who would've thought that the bastard offspring of Java and CORBA would be anything other than a giant clusterfuck?) Don't get me started on MFC.

I've built apps in Qt that literally required a tenth of the code of an equivalent Windows version.

And of course in the corporate arena the only up-and-comer of note is Linux. Linux is competing with brands like System i and Solaris. For things like OLTP, these systems are hard to beat. A CTO that deployed Windows in such an environment should be sued by the shareholders for breach of his fiduciary duty. You know the old IBM marketing slogan, "no manager ever got fired for choosing IBM?" I have seen people fired for choosing Windows (hell, I've seen companies go broke for choosing Microsoft products).

Elby the Beserk said...

OOh Mr. Gillies, lets waggle our coding willies :-)

My first code - written in Algol, run on paper tape. 1967 at Hatfield Poly.

First email sent 1983 - over an internal company email system run over the X25 packet switching network.

Macs are just about OK, now they run Unix. Way too pricey tho'.

David Gillies said...

I said most of you lot, not all. I was too late for ALGOL: my first ventures into the programming field (when I were a nipper) were in ALGOL 68 , ca. 1978. PDP 11's and Vaxen running DCL. At least it wasn't JCL. OK, you're an old-timer, but I can wave my willy with the best of 'em.

The whole point of my admiration for MacOS X is its foundation in BSD, coupled with the beautiful GUI application framework of Cocoa. Objective C is perhaps the best fit that a language has between an efficient runtime and a powerful abstraction method. Qt is C++ based, and it's very good, but it still needs an extension system via the MOC to build in the cross-object communications system that Objective C gives you for free. The late static binding is especially nice.

As for hardware prices: a modern Intel box will run OS X, subject to some easily-satisfiable requirements. You'll even get sound and 802.11.

Tim Carpenter said...

David Gillies,

You echo my sentiments. I began on PDP-11 but mostly VAX and Alpha (PASCAL, DCL, Java, C, C++). For willy-waving, I used to tune the applications to make the most of the Alpha chip's 4 prefetch queues while taking complete control over memory management/working set. Knowledge of the VMS scheduler, security and priority mechanism still makes me weep when I know how feeble Windows is, and even UNIX if truth be told.

After having to use Windows (and by this I mean mostly W3.11 and NT3.51/4.0), it was a relief to get OSX - even in pre-beta it was superior. I thought 8.6/9 was a bit lame, frankly, but at least it looked good when it worked!

Those of you who think Mac means "toy" and "do what you are told" are kidding yourselves. Windows has NEVER met my even BASIC needs in terms of a platform.

p.s. I have done some ObjC work too. A nice platform. I find C++ a PITA hackerfest, frankly. Java is better. I am now into Erlang. Let us wait for Microsoft to totally misunderstand then attempt to hijack the functional/highly concurrent space.

Anonymous said...

I've just spent the best part of and hour and a half trying to find my entire music collection after Itunes 8 (ironically named 'genius') automatically installed itself from the web and removed all my music and hid it in a completely different program file.

I then spent 2 hours receiving 'cut & paste' letters from Apple of such a magnitude of arrogance & patronisation that it made Microsoft look competent & caring!

The bottom line is, they fuck up your PC and then tell you how 'they understood your plight' but were going to do fuck all about it..so piss right off.

Wankers the lot of them..I think computers and their makers should be destroyed - en masse.