Sunday, September 07, 2008

Two UKIP memes

Via the website, this is the first part of Nigel Farage's speech to the UKIP Conference 2008.


I am glad to see Nigel emphasising two things: the first is that these Euro-elections should be, as he puts it, "the referendum that we never had." As readers will know, I entirely agree with him: sure, you can go and vote Tory at the General Election if you like, but at these Euro-elections, send those self-same Tories a big, fat fucking message about the direction that you would like them to head towards—the direction that you demand that they head towards—as concerns the EU, i.e. it shouldn't fucking exist but, given that it does, we want no part of the political and bureaucratic aspects of it.

The second point is one that I have urged Nigel to adopt ever since I first met him, two years ago. I said that UKIP came over as an overwhelmingly negative party: it was the party that was forever saying "no".

I maintained that this had to change, that people were scared of the idea of leaving the EU and UKIP had to be able to paint a positive picture of how a Britain outwith the EU would not merely cope, but be actively greater, more free and more prosperous than it is now. And so it is excellent to see the Party Leader adopting this stance: good for him.

So, at the Euro-elections, kill two birds with one stone: tell Spam precisely what you fucking want and tell the EU to fuck off—vote UKIP.

7 comments:

Rumbold said...

While the Tories are too soft on the EU at the moment, UKIP's immigration policy is uncomfortably BNP-esque, so I can't vote for them. I eagerly await the eventual emergence of LPUK Euro candidates.

ukipwebmaster said...

Thanks Chris!

wonkotsane said...

And here's me thinking I'd just spent half an hour saying something that nobody else has said yet ...

Not Quite Hayek said...

The second point is one that I have urged Nigel to adopt ever since I first met him, two years ago. I said that UKIP came over as an overwhelmingly negative party: it was the party that was forever saying "no".

I think this is a wider problem that includes those of us who call ourselves libertarians.

The perception is that we sit around, complaining and carping on about everything, without actually providing any constructive answers or 'solutions'.

It's all very well saying "let's abolish the NHS", but if we're to persuade people that this is the right way forward, then we have to have something very realistic and relative to them that will replace their sacred cow (the NHS) and is better and feels safer. We don't seem to be very good at providing practicable alternatives, whilst at the same time advocating unrealistic, almost revolutionary, positions. As libertarians, I think that we do not do nuance and patience particularly well- we demand an immediate change to things, rather than try to effect things incrementally- something that the left and lobby groups do so very well at. People just don't like massive change- why work against it?

Your reasons for leaving UKIP are the same reasons for my not joining. Although there are people saying quite sensible things in UKIP, there are also some quite loony people in the grassroots saying very odd things, some of which I think have made it in to policy, just to placate them. As a result, I am a political orphan with no party to support nationally!

Anonymous said...

Voting will only encourage the fuckers on the Gravy Train.

Write 'No' then dribble a bit of wee on the voting slip, see if the Bilderburger controlled cocklickers get the message.

Richard said...

DK, when you've finished preening yourself about how clever you are, and how your new hero Farage is in your thrall, you might care to reflect that a few people might have been telling him something very similar to what you claim to have told him, only many years earlier.

However, contrary to the "line" currently offered by your hero, we have been saying that the message of what is wrong with the EU should be heavily emphasised (talked-up at every opportunity) but also counterbalanced by a positive message of what we should do about it. Either one without the other is dangerously unbalanced.

See here.

xelent said...

DK,

I couldnt agree with you more about our prosperity being better...

However, these oiks (politicians) require a reason to exist... the EU has always been a method of prolonging state power...

Its about the old adage about the state constantly growing and getting bigger... The EU gives them a reason to exist at all...

The only hopeful thing is that once it fails catastophically.. People will finally realise that the state is truly evil at last..