Monday, September 08, 2008

Someone else's Barbie

Via the Britblog Roundup, I come upon this story at Random Acts of Reality. Tom was called to take a girl—who speaks no English—to maternity hospital as she had gone into labour. It was her third child by her husband (who was also her cousin).

The girl was fifteen.
I wonder about our patient getting pregnant for the first time when she is twelve. I wonder about her cousin, I wonder how old he is, and how old he was when he first started what can only be described as child abuse. I wonder about the isolation that our patient would feel in being unable to speak the native language of the country in which she lives. I wonder about why the social services allow this child to remain in a situation where she has seemingly become a baby factory.
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So now I'm angry again—I'm angry that a fifteen year old girl has been raped at least three times presumably with her family's consent. I'm angry because it would seem that nothing is being done about it and I'm angry that this isn't an isolated incident.

You are the only one—there are just so many things wrong with this situation.

Fucking hell, I hate people...

29 comments:

Rob Farrington said...

What, you mean that you actually care MORE about the welfare of children than for "cultural differences which have to be respected"?

No wonder you're not considered to be a left wing blogger. Next, you'll be having people call you a "paedo nazi" for taking such an extreme stance.

Or maybe a "nazi paedo". I understand that there are supposed to be subtle differences between the two, although I'm not a tinfoil-hat wearing politically correct moonbat, so I couldn't really say...

Devil's Kitchen said...

Fuck "cultural differences". When in Rome, do as the Romans do; and when you are in this country you obey British law.

And in this country, sex with someone under 16 is statutory rape.

DK

Devil's Kitchen said...

P.S. There is a world of difference between "nazi paedo" and "paedo nazi" but a paedonazi like u will neva understand that.

Gordon Brown rulez OK...

DK

Tenacious Q. said...

I think (or should I say hope) that you have a small typo which has a BIG impact. You wrote, "You are the only one--there ...".

Did you mean to say, "You aren't the only one---there ...".

Love your blog!! Keep up the fantastic work.

Mr. Q.

Old Holborn said...

A farmer in Barnsley catches a bloke drinking from his stream and shouts "heyop cock tha dunt wanna be drinkin' watter from theer, its full o hoss piss an' cow shite".

The bloke says "I'm from Pakistan, can you speak a bit slower?"

"Ok" says the Barnsley Farmer "If you use two hands my friend you'll drink it quicker"

Anonymous said...

Can you guys help me out here? There seems to be a typo on DK's blog as mentioned by 'tenancious q'.

DK - Are you saying ' Why the fuck is this allowed to go on in the UK? Why are the politically correct simpletons in charge of public funds turning a blind eye? Why are we paying for it all?' etc etc. If so, I'm with you on that completely.

Or; are you just saying 'fuck her she's a pakki' - which seems to be Old Holborn's reading of it...

From my reading of your blog for a few weeks I suspect (and hope) that its the former?

Rob said...

It would seem completely bloody obvious to me what DK meant. If a poster had rambled about penguins, would you think DK's post was also about penguins?

bernard manning said...

Old fucking Holborn, just fuck off and leave all the really fucking hilarious paki jokes to me alright cunt.

Anyway, paki goes into the bar where he meets this really thick mick and (this is fucking great this) this really tight Scottish cunt anyway....

Anonymous said...

Rob - If you are going to use metaphors I suggest they make sense.

So Rob, tell me, in DK's absence, what exactly did DK mean. Was he, as I have already said I suspect, making the point that our society is run by politically correct jobsworths that cannot apply the rule of law fairly, or was he suggesting that there are simply too many 'pakkis' in the UK and fuck 'em all - which I don't think he was.... I think that's a fair question given Old Holborn's contribution which seems to assume he is making the latter point.

Tell me Rob as you are clearly so wise on the subject. It's just that if this blog is, as I think it is, a libertarian blog, the typo is critical to the point DK is making.

..you sanctimonious, penguin-fixated, twat.

Devil's Kitchen said...

Anon,

My anger stems from the fact "that our society is run by politically correct jobsworths that cannot apply the rule of law fairly", yes.

But the main focus of said anger (tenged with considerable sadness) is those who are happy to marry off their children and see them raped before said child can even have a say in the matter.

In this country, we believe that I twelve year old cannot make a decision for themselves because they are unable to understand the consequences.

This young girl has been married off at 12 and turned, as Tom Reynolds puts it, into a baby-factory and she never really had a say in it.

This young girl's life -- all of that potential -- is effectively over before it has begun: the course of her life has been chosen for her even before she could have a say in it.

She might have decided to do the same thing over again, but we will never know. It is a form of slavery and it makes me viciously angry.

What specific culture they were -- I think that Tom was implying that they were Romanian gypsies -- is immaterial: any culture that effectively enslaves children is worth less than nothing.

DK

Anonymous said...

DK,

Alas, the cretins that run this country do not share your view. While they all twitter about wimmins rights, gay rights, children's rights, animal rights, organic veg rights, they (I am talking of the left wing and liberal groups) all fail to condemn the greatest atavastic 'faith' that advocates, nay encourages, child abuse, subjection of women, outright murder of gays and indeed anyone who does not subscribe to their ancient theocracy.

Added to that failure to condemn is the fact that the cretins now want to make it a 'hate crime' for anyone else to object to its presence and practices in this country.

Meanwhile, its adherents plot to blow airlines out of the sky and scheme to lay their hands on some handy sized nuclear material - all for a joke of course, just to wake us decadant westerners up a little.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the clarification.

I agree completely with all those sentiments so, for what it is worth, we are as one mind on that (and pretty much everything else I think). A fantastic blog by the way. Sense personified.

Thanks.

xelent said...

Anyway, back to the point,

This exactly why I hate govt's...

The idea that our own culture is less important... Indeed, that we are meant to learn something from a genital mutilating religion such as Islam...

These savages have no place in open debate... As there thoughts are controlled by fear and self loathing...

How do we help them?... Well, by telling them that they are babarians for starters...

Old Holborn said...

http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2008/07/primary-school-riots-in-pakistan.html

Blogged it ages it ago

Anonymous said...

PS I think that condemning a whole culture for one particular practice is a bit of an over-reaction. Anyway, who are 'they' when you start talking about cultures.

No, it needs to be based on individual actions and if a breach of our law occurs it should be dealt with with appropriate vigour. A paedo is a paedo and that is that.

Where there is clearly a particular movement (like for instance violent, hate-preaching radicals in UK mosques) then a broader solution to the problem is necessary, but that's very murky water.

If there is 'Institutional slavery / paedophilia' in a particular minority culture within this country then it should be exposed and dealt with as vigorously as when a charge of 'Institutional Racism' is made.

Of course, that won't happen because too many people, usually lefie-types, cling onto labels without thinking through the fairness of a principle.

Have you ever watched a right-on socialist trying to figure out whether he should be telling a black lesbian to stop smoking on a train platform - it keeps me entertained for hours... Sad, I know.

Old Holborn said...

Hang on, you could use the same argument for Somalis who ship their daughters back on "holidays" to have their cunts stitched up.

Islam is a barbaric "culture". The religion is fine. If you want to grovel to Mecca five times a day, feel free, I won't stop you.

If you want to marry your nine year old cousin, have sex with her, then marry another nine year cousin and have sex with her, make sure your daughters are not allowed out and develop rickets, call for my death because I chose not to worship the same sky fairy as you, stone poofs to death, slit an animals throat whilst it is conscious, cut the foreskins off your children AND blow up innocent people on the Tube AND DO ALL OF THE ABOVE IN MY COUNTRY, I WILL do my upmost to stop you.

Stop Staring at my TITS! said...

Will someone not think about the penguins, or have the polar bears eaten them all?

Anonymous said...

Anon,

The 'culture' of islam instills the practices of child sex, murder of non believers, total intolerance of laws other than sharia into all of its adherents.

Those that do not follow it totally are not 'true muslims'according to the very book they live by. Those who appear as 'moderate' are simply following another avenue to spread their theorcracy - that of deception again authorised by the shitty little anti human manual they call the koran.

Anonymous said...

And I quote:

"If you want to marry your nine year old cousin, have sex with her, then marry another nine year cousin and have sex with her, make sure your daughters are not allowed out and develop rickets, call for my death because I chose not to worship the same sky fairy as you, stone poofs to death, slit an animals throat whilst it is conscious, cut the foreskins off your children AND blow up innocent people on the Tube AND DO ALL OF THE ABOVE IN MY COUNTRY, I WILL do my upmost to stop you".

...and I think you'll find that all of that is illegal in this country - so what's your point caller.

All of that is barbaric. I consider very large sections of the shariah law to be wholly barbaric, but if those that follow Islam behave by our rules whilst in the UK, then they can do what the hell they believe to be right in a country that has accepted Shariah Law as its own. I just hope that never happens here.

And by the way, last time I looked it was 'our' country, not just yours, unless, of course, you've bought up all of the real estate when I wasn't looking, in which case, who is your funding source coz it sure as fuck aint a British Bank or I wouldn't be whiling the hours away setting the World to right, I'd be working to pay for my next council tax bill like the rest of the wage slaves..

Old Holborn said...

Then perhaps you can explain that whilst bigamy is illegal in this country, Muslims may claim for benefits for more than one wife?

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23474888-details/Muslim%20is%20spared%20a%20speeding%20ban%20so%20he%20can%20drive%20between%20his%20two%20wives/article.do

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/1577395/Multiple-wives-will-mean-multiple-benefits.html

"New guidelines on income support from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) state: "Where there is a valid polygamous marriage the claimant and one spouse will be paid the couple rate ... The amount payable for each additional spouse is presently £33.65."

Income support for all of the wives may be paid directly into the husband's bank account, if the family so choose. Under the deal agreed by ministers, a husband with multiple wives may also be eligible for additional housing benefit and council tax benefit to reflect the larger property needed for his family."

Lest you never forget the now famous line, spoken to a British Politician, in Britain...

"How DARE you come to a Muslim area?!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3176455.ece

Run along, you have a lot of reading to do.

Anonymous said...

PS

Sadly, I do believe Islam in particular to be a particularly acquisitive religion and it has, at its core, a burning sense of righteousness, as do most religions.

So, I do agree that Islam, as a political ideology/religion, is a potential danger to our western values and democracy (at least what remains of it). That said, condemning it as a culture does no-one any good.

As a resident of Wolverhampton in the 70's, I could have told you then that mass immigration of people with massively different cultures and belief systems would cause us all big problems in the future. In fact, there was even some chap who made the same point I do believe...! Unfortunately, his viewpoint and his dialogue were clearly tainted with the stench of racism and his otherwise sensible and logical argument was, therefore, villified.

Mass immigration of different cultures to our own was wrong and is wrong. Other societies suffer from the same thing - Fiji for instance. When minority cultures are segregated and look inward, it causes social tension and resentment which eventually causes hatred and violence. At least, that's my view.

But, and its a big but (so to speak) - We are now a society with large elements from different cultures. That is a fact. It therefore does none of us any good to clasify those cultures (or religions) into good and evil, civilised or not. The best we can do is treat individuals as individuals under the law and where groups of individuals get together deal with them as factions that must behave within this societiy's rules, no matter what their religious beliefs. In my mind, a religious belief is just a political ideology without the apparent need to support it with coherent argument..

I'm a great believer in 'when in Rome..', but that was considered very un-PC for some unknown reason and sadly, still is. Those liberal, socialist tosspots who got us into the multi-cultural mess we now inhabit have a lot to answer for, but luckily for them most dropped dead a while ago.. Unfortunately, their apologists are still here in force.

The best that we in modern Britain can do now is to stand up for our western values whilst we still enjoy them and recognise our own culture's weaknesses into the bargain, try to maintain a sense of proportion, beware radicals and shout down twats that decide that Christmas isn't going to be celebrated this year in case it offends our Muslim brethren or pay for five wives some bloke just happens to have imported...I was aware of the report by the way.

Right - I'm off to get my own blog space and stop preaching on DK's... I feel better though.

Thud said...

There is not much left to debate about islam...over and over again it proves itself as a backward evil cult that wishes to enslave/kill us all...as for wommen and children...there rights and lives are of no consequence...now can we have the courage to see it off?

Chalcedon said...

The child, for that is what she is being only 15, should be taken into care along with her children. The 'husband' should be charged with child rape. The parents (his of course) should be charged with aiding and abetting.
Child abuse is against the law which should be implemented. How dare this disgrace for a man be allowed to continue the child abuse.

Anonymous said...

You seem to be assuming that this is a muslim problem. Whilst I won't deny the "religion of peace" ho, ho, ho has it's foibles I think a situation like this with a 15 year old girl on her third child is just as likely to involve one of the fine Roma folk that the EU has allowed to come to Britain without let or hindrance thanks to our EU overlords. I used to work in UK immigration and every night bus loads of gypsies would turn up in Dover. Many of them would be children with their own children. I seem to recall in Spain the age of consent is 13. In Bulgaria it's 14 so if it's ok in their home countries where's the problem?
Or do you think maybe that we should be allowed to govern our own country as we see fit and maybe we should be allowed to keep people out who are not a positive asset to Britain?

xelent said...

anon,

Please, we all know what muslims do to their women... Its hardly like they hide it... As for gypsies? to be honest I really dont know... But I can be sure any barbarity they may have within their own culture is most deffinately NOT backed up by govt support...

Robin said...

The age of consent in Romania is 18. I think a lot of those Gypsies have come from there.
Point is, they`re not respecting anybodies law or culture.

Miss Snuffleupagus said...

So do I... (hate people that is)

Little Black Sambo said...

Anon said (I don't know which anon), 'Unfortunately, his viewpoint and his dialogue were clearly tainted with the stench of racism.'
Would you give some evidence for that "clearly tainted"? I believe you are maligning a good and honourable man.

Cinnamon said...

DK, you're so behind the times. See:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/north-warwickshire-news/2008/09/09/first-uk-sharia-court-up-and-running-in-warwickshire-92746-21708478/

Muslim women no longer have equal rights in the UK -- they are once again the private property of their husbands to be discarded without alimonies, their kids or asset sharing upon divorce, courtesy of Labour.