Sunday, August 31, 2008

Hypocritical Hundal

Yes, I think that the Conservative Party Reptile nails it here.
The sweet smell of consistency

Stage 1: Sunny Hundal writes a post which says that making unscientific allegations that Gordon Brown suffers from a specific mental illness is the lowest possible form of politics practised by right-wingers.

Stage 2: Sunny Hundal writes a post which unscientifically accuses a right-wing blogger of having a specific mental illness.

And, as I pointed out, although I do not suffer from Tourettes, one of my contributors does. And he helpfully left a comment pointing this out.
Dear Mr. Hundal,

I came across this post via ‘The Devil’s Kitchen’. I am the contributor to that site to whom Chris has referred as suffering from severe Tourette Syndrome.

It is disappointing to see your casual, lazy reference to what is an extremely debilitating and embarrassing condition on a post the topic of which has absolutely nothing to do with TS. Such references do nothing but continue to spread the lamentable misconceptions about TS which persist in the public mind.

Sunny has, of course, utterly failed to acknowledge or apologise for the comment. I don't really give a crap—he can call me what he likes, since I happily call him a cunt (and more) although I consider that to be no more than accuracy—but it's good to see his hypocrisy spelt out for all to see.

UPDATE: sinking to my level (and how much does that please me?), Sunny points out in the comments that he has addressed the Tourette's point. Nice of him.

Obviously, I can't be bothered to read what he's written as it would probably just annoy me and, as Rumbold points out, this spat has run its course.

UPDATE 2: Or possibly not.
This is just a start. There's more coming.

Hmmm, I wonder what that means. I shall assume that Sunny is going to attempt to ruin me by taking this into the real world, a la Shot By Both Sides...*

* For those that don't know, Shot By Both Sides was John Band's former blog which had to be taken offline after people objected to something that he wrote and decided to target the company that he worked for.

21 comments:

Rumbold said...

DK:

I think that you have milked this particular topic for all that it is worth.

(Off-topic, the latest LPUK e-newsletter is garbled)

Devil's Kitchen said...

Quite right, Rumbold.

And I'm working on the LPUK thing.

DK

Budgie said...

For the last 20 years self proclaimed lefties liked nothing better than hurling personal abuse at "Thatcher". Now, when the boot's on the other foot, they whinge when McBroon is called the Prime Mentalist.

Big difference though: Thatcher took a basket case UK economy and turned it round; McBroon took a good economy and has turned it into a basket case.

Rumbold said...

DK:

"And I'm working on the LPUK thing."

Sorry for mentioning it online, but I wasn't sure who to e-mail.

Thanks.

And "milking" was a bit strong. Perhaps I should have just said that it has run its course.

Sunny said...

Oh, but I have addressed it fuckface.

Let’s get one thing straight. Chris Mounsey and his acolytes aren’t condeming me because they disagree with being flippant about mental illness - after all, they’re quite happy doing that with Brown.

They only want to win a point over Mounsey, which is rather different. And yes, trying to psychologically analyse him would expose a whole range of other issues.

I wonder what chris mounsey would say if someone else addressed a point by a writer/blogger and put up a picture alongside referring to his “Jewish features”. Maybe it has editorial relevance - who knows eh?

http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/29/income-inequality-tories-v-labour/#comment-19791

Devil's Kitchen said...

"I wonder what chris mounsey would say if someone else addressed a point by a writer/blogger and put up a picture alongside referring to his “Jewish features”. Maybe it has editorial relevance - who knows eh?"

It is merely a descriptor. Your writing reveals a certain obsession with race, so we know where you stand on this.

Whereas I am not a racist in any way: I address people purely as I find them.

I don't, for instance, dislike you because you are Asian: I dislike you because you're a hypocritical, ignorant cunt who calls himself a "liberal" but is happy to advocate more state control because he expects to be pulling the levers.

DK

P.S. Still using my real name, I see. I did say that I didn't expect you to understand etiquette.

Sunny said...

P.S. Still using my real name, I see. I did say that I didn't expect you to understand etiquette.

etiquette? You're a fine one to talk about that.

This is just a start. There's more coming.

Merely a descriptor eh? I see.

Devil's Kitchen said...

"This is just a start. There's more coming."

Ah, threats, eh? Nice. It's good to know that you consider me worth so much of your time.

"Merely a descriptor eh? I see."

Sunny, you tend to define yourself by your ethnicity. It seemed appropriate therefore...

DK

Sunny said...

Let's deal with a few other fallacies:

I dislike you because you're a hypocritical, ignorant cunt who calls himself a "liberal" but is happy to advocate more state control because he expects to be pulling the levers.

Yeah, that's what they all say. Bizarre then, that you're obsessed by me, and put up pictures of me, and don't respond to points about anti-semitism smearing.

Sunny, you tend to define yourself by your ethnicity.

No fuckface, my ethnicity is part of who I am - I cannot ignore it it and nor is it the full extent of what I'm about. Most of my writing isn't about my own ethnicity. PP is mostly about race/identity issues, for reasons outlined in the mission statement. Not my fault if you're too stupid to understand.

You're just using that as an excuse to say "fine Asian features" even though you would never even dare to say "fine Jewish features" for obvious reasons when it comes to others.

Hypocritical cunt.

And on top of that, Unity destroyed your earlier argument on wealth inequality, while on LibCon I pointed out why it was a poor measure.

You didn't link to my bit either, because you don't want to admit that you're a stupid tosser who gets things wrong. You're too busy swearing, backed up a bunch of sychophants who keep repeating "these lefties are just like fascists, when will they realise that" on repeat.

Devil's Kitchen said...

I linked to Unity's article. It's fair enough: I was wrong on that issue. But -- and you needn't believe it -- that wasn't really the point. I linked to your original piece but, to be honest, I haven't seen your other piece: I don't read LibCon regularly.

However, you are right that I should not have put your picture up: I have removed it and the associated comment.

DK

Devil's Kitchen said...

Re: anti-Semitism. I found that post: I'd forgotten about it. As it happens, that post was suggested to me by someone else, though I was happy to bait you, for sure.

DK

Frank Fisher said...

Yeah, that's what they all say. Bizarre then, that you're obsessed by me, and put up pictures of me, and don't respond to points about anti-semitism smearing.

Maybe, Sunny, they *all* say that because you actually are a hypocritical ignorant cunt who is no more a liberal than Harriet Harman? You're just another controlling, self-serving, quango-huntin' leftie. I disagree with DK on plenty, but he ain't wrong on that...

Oh and Sunny, it ain't so much that today's lefties are Fascists - all Fascists *are* lefties. Totalitarianism is the natural end of statism/socialism, and has been on every occasion it's been implemented - isn't that so?

I'm going for a drink - you boys keep this scrap going - it'll be fun to see who makes a cockhead of themself first.

Trixy said...

"etiquette? You're a fine one to talk about that."

Actually, given that he has manners and social graces, I would argue that he is.

woganjosh said...

Ah- this brings me to some musings I had when driving on the M1 at 7 this morning. Left wing bloggers just don't get the format. They struggle to write entertaining posts and they tend to 'play the man' a la Tommy Smith (ex Liverpool). My theory is that blogging is like running a small business. It requires hard work, self reliance, social skills, an understanding of what the reader/customer wants and a determination to succeed in a free market.

Hard to see many lefties doing this.

JuliaM said...

"his acolytes"

Didn't think anyone used that term outside of comic books....

Ian_QT said...

@woganjosh: It doesn't seem to be a problem for US left-wing bloggers...

I think Sunny is doing this deliberately, trying to play the right at their own game. Over this past 2 weeks he's been so belligerent.

Not that I particularly mind - I've long been saying the lefty blogosphere could do with some spicing up.

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Devil's Kitchen said...

ian_qt,

Yes, he is. To be honest, the language that Sunny has been using is a precise echo of Tim Ireland: if I didn't know better, I'd almost think that the Sunny commenting here was Tim Ireland sockpuppeting...!

DK

Muzumdar said...

Well well well Sunny, it certainly seems that you have been riled again.

Although the difficulty for you is that you cannot ban DK, like you do to others who disagree with you.

I must say that I'm revelling in you squirming like a Muslim who is being forced to celebrate Christmas.

I wonder though, what will your New Labour overlords think when these vile comments of yours come to their attention? When they come round to considering giving you a chance to run for MP in, say, Henley, these comments - coupled with the complete and utter rubbish 'written' on your blog - will come back to bite you around the rectal area.

You haven't changed a bit, and you never will; you always were the simplistic little boy trying to play the intellectual, and you will always fail.

Thanks,

Muzumdar

Dirty Euro said...

Hundal is a pratt. I do not support him being labour MP. He is a moron.

Morgoth said...

I wonder though, what will your New Labour overlords think when these vile comments of yours come to their attention?

Chortle. Indeed, that is the pertinent question. The thing you must bear in mind about Jesus H Hundal is that he's in it purely for the sake of Jesus H Hundal.