Sunday, July 13, 2008

Child curfews? What the fuck is this shit?

[I started this post some days ago, but have only just got around to finishing it.]

Via the justifiably outraged The Womble on Tour, it seems that Britain's inexorable march towards totalitarianism continues apace.
A police force is introducing a youth curfew to cut down on anti-social behaviour which will be the first to punish parents for letting their children out alone at night.

Operation Goodnight in Redruth, Cornwall, will see officers given the power to remove any youth under 16 seen on the streets after 9pm and any child under 10 after 8pm.

Officers in Redruth, Cornwall, say they have been forced into the extensive curfew in an attempt to make parents more responsible for their children.

The scheme encourages parents to voluntarily sign up to the lock-in and register their children.

You fucking what? Oh, and this is a voluntary scheme is it? And what happens if you don't join in voluntarily, I wonder?
Any child found outside after hours will then be checked on a register and if their parents have refused to take part in the voluntary scheme they face tough parenting orders.

Police hope the scheme will not only tackle young offenders but also highlight parents who are failing to take responsibility for their offspring.

It is thought to be the first curfew in the country of its type to use powers to punish parents who refuse to take part. They face tough social orders or even criminal prosecutions.

That's right, it's only "voluntary" in the most cursory sense; it's voluntary until you decide that, actually, you aren't terribly keen on being part of this voluntary scheme, at which point it becomes compulsory. Of course.

But what the cunting shit is going on in this country? I mean, seriously, what the FUCK?

As I have said too many times before, what do you call a country in which police make the law and then act and judge, jury and executioner? We call it a fucking police state.
PC Marc Griffin, who is behind Operation Goodnight, said the curfew was brought in because unsupervised youngsters face an "increased risk" of becoming offenders.

Oh, that's right: it's all for the sake of the chiiiiiildren. Oh, won't somebody think of the chiiiiiiidren?
PC Griffiths said: "It is about time parents started to take responsibility for their own children. There are kids all over the country who don't know right from wrong - that makes them vulnerable.

And you are going to teach them that it is perfectly right to prosecute parents who do not imprison their children and that it is absolutely not wrong to punish people because they might commit a crime at some point.

You, PC Griffin or Griffiths or whatever the fuck your name is, are a disgusting little authoritarian who should be beaten to death with your own cock.
"The spirit of this scheme is not about restricting what our young people can and cannot do..."

Erm, you fucking what? "[R]estricting what our young people can and cannot do" is precisely what this is about, you fucking tool.

With cunts like this, who needs central dictators, eh?

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

The filth have always attracted a particular type of authoritarian: the little Hitler, the little Napoleon, the small and generally irrelevant individual who scraped into the police and is now determined to wring every last drop of power from his position.

Many pigs out there do a good job of protecting the public but at least as many see their uniform as an invitation to abuse and dominate the general public - and, in particular, to abuse and dominate the tax-paying middle classes who, being fearful of rocking the boat, are most likely to accept abusive behaviour from the police.

The police have always had these individuals but in the past they were a bug, a glitch. Now, under ZanuLab, the abusive authoritarian policeman is Working As Designed.

kris said...

Do you ever get the feeling that you just don't belong? what the fuck has happened to this country where we feel its necessary to coral our children so they don't get into trouble? how about the presumption of innocence? This country is on the fast track to a dictatorship. Fuck brown and his nulab fascists, fuck them all with a stick covered in rusty barbed wire, coated in dog shit .

Old Holborn said...

An interesting precedent is being set here.

ZNL will watch crime figures plummet and soon enough, none of us will be allowed out after 9pm.

For our own protection of course

Old Holborn said...

And BINGO. Here it comes

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4322650.ece

"A nationwide youth curfew to help combat knife crime was backed by the public and senior politicians last night.

In the strongest sign yet of the growing fear of violence on Britain’s streets, a Sunday Times poll reveals today that nine out of 10 parents would back legal restrictions on their children going out after dark."

There is a yellow curfew in operation. This is for YOUR safety

Old Holborn said...

Click on the YOUGOV figures and you get this

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/payne.pdf

VERY interesting

nightjack said...

Damn, I guess this means we have really lost the ability to actually police the streets. I say this for the obvious reason that we "The Cops" have created some bogus non-discretionary blanket scheme rather than dealing with the groups or individuals that are causing a problem. How very lazy.

What is the point of this if not to give the local Gendarmes an easy life after 9pm? No discretion or proper policing required, just a big net, a large horse drawn van and a Ruritanian uniform.

This isn't policing by consent at all and the fact that we are doing it in some places makes me want to take a very hot shower.

Pogo said...

"nine out of 10 parents would back legal restrictions on their children going out after dark."

If they're all so keen on the idea, why the fuck don't they keep them in after dark without the need for legal compulsion?

Sir Henry Morgan said...

In any survey, the answers you get can be virtually guaranteed by the questions you ask.

OH - thanks for that Worlwide Strategic Partners link. I can see myself being able to use that in the future. And I note it was marked 'Confidential'

fi said...

I live in Cornwall, not Redruth mind, and I know a young lad who is an MYP who is kicking up a big stink about this.

He's not going to back down and has made it clear the police and council have a fight on their hands. The youngsters in Cornwall are not planning on sitting back and being fucked over

Watching Them, Watching Us said...

How is this curfew plan actually legal ?

Even if an area has been designated as a Dispersal Zone (most of the country is not so designated) , there is no power of compulsion any more, following this case in Richmond-on-Thames:

W, R (on the application of) v Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis & Ors [2005] EWHC 1586 (Admin) (20 July 2005)

the doctor said...

How in heavens name does this square with the Convention of the Rights of the Child and the Human Rights Act .
I can see the police paying out big time in compensation .

JuliaM said...

"I can see the police paying out big time in compensation ."

Can you..? Given that 'the police' isn't a profit-generating operation, I can only see the poor bloody taxpayer paying out big time in compensation.

Again!

Roger Thornhill said...

"How in heavens name does this square with the Convention of the Rights of the Child and the Human Rights Act ."

All three should be chucked in the bin, thats how.

George said...

More authoritarian measures designed to elevate the police state. Just the mere thought of these people existing in this great Universe of ours makes me cringe.

Anonymous said...

Most of the rich kids are out with mammy and dad in the clubs it's those poverty bloody council estates again all muck. But of course Blair's kid found drunk in the street laying in the gutter was a one off or was it.

Seems we are back to the problem of what you see and cannot see I say old boy did you like me dressing up in a Nazi Uniform just before Holocaust hay what bit of fun with the Pims.

Jan said...

The actual law (ASB Act 2006) says that if a police officer has 'reasonable' cause to believe you are under 16, he can take you home! Nothing is said about harm, vulnerable, just under 16. There was a court case some time back in that poor town, Kingston upon Thames when a kid of 14 got stopped by pretend police - he took it to the High Court and the judge said he didn't even need to be told about the European Convention on Human Rights to known that it was OK for someone going about their lawful business to do so without being stopped like this. Kid 1 Police 0. However has this stopped more of these curfews? No.

Some questions: how does a police officer tell if someone is 14 in a group of kids - s/he has a label on him? The above case also revealed that the law ios so badly drawn it doesn't even permit the police to ask the kid his name, nor his address and they can't forcibly remove him.

There are people looking to force the govt to drop this, by going to court - any volunteers who would like to object after they've been stopped and who are under 16, contact me: national@fairplayforchildren.org.

You'll also be aware of the Mosquito anti-teen device: google it. The govt won't stop its use.

I'm on www.fairplayforchildren.org

Problem with the UN Convention - we signed up to it but it's not part of our national law ....

ALLEN said...

FUCK THE U.S. Government! I dropped out of high school (11th grade) and within the last few months of dropping out I've learned more history on the internet and from documentaries than from my entire life of being at school. They never told us (and it wasn't in the history books) that in August 1939 the Gleiwitz incident and Operation Himmler was used to FAKE evidence of a Polish attack against Germany, in order to have a reason to invade Poland. They never said Himmler burned down the Reichstag in order to create a government document, which is EERILY similar to "The Patriot Act". WHICH IS NOT, I REPEAT NOTTTTTTT patriotic whatsoever. The evil from WWII just shifted from Germany to the USA (and I'm not talking about just with the last decade, I mean since WWII ended). Only, the U.S. government learned from Hitler (also known as the 2nd anti-Christ) not to go so fast... and how to hide evidence and have a reason so that not even CONGRESS can view these documents. I HATE THIS GODDAMN COUNTRY SO MUCH! YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP AND START RIOTING. SMALL, PEACEFUL PROTESTS HAVE NOT, AND WILL NOT EVER WORK!!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND I MEAN LEGAL AMERICANS, SHOULD TAKE TO THE STREETS OF WASHINGTON AND DEMAND JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM CONGRESS, SENATE, AND THE WHITE HOUSE... AND IF THERE IS NONE WITHIN 24 HOURS, WE WILL TAKE MATTERS INTO OUR OWN HANDS, i.e. CUTTING GEORGE W. BUSH JR.'s HEAD OFF ALONG WITH MOST OF HIS ADMINISTRATION, THEN STICKING THE HEADS ON THE WHITE HOUSE GATES. NOT TO MENTION ALL THE CORRUPT ASSHOLES IN THE CIA, FBI, NSA, ATF, AND EVERY OTHER GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION THAT ALLOWS SUCH HORRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF OUR CONSTITUTION, BILL OF RIGHTS, AND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE!!!!

I mean, AM I REALLY going to have to be the person to act violently against corrupt officials to start an uprising??!! SERIOUSLY PEOPLE, next time there is a small, peaceful protest scheduled somewhere here in the U.S., get to the street to be protested on 3 hours in advance, HIDE IN ALLEYWAYS OR APARTMENT BUILDINGS WITH MOLOTOV COCKTAILS and WAIT FOR THE FUCKING PIGS TO START BEATING INNOCENT CIVILIANS... THEN, LET 'EM RIP! FUCK BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS, THIS COUNTRY NEEDS ANOTHER REVOLUTION... ONLY THIS TIME IT WON'T BE THE "NORTH VS. THE SOUTH", IT'LL BE "MORALITY VS. CORRUPTION. WE CAN'T KEEP TAKING THESE BEATINGS, BOTH MENTALLY and PHYSICALLY, then expect something good to happen, because guess what??? THE GOVERNMENT OWNS THE MEDIA: ABC, NBC, FOX, etc. SO THEY WILL NEVER SHOW PEACEFUL PROTESTERS BEING BEATEN IN THE STREETS AND WOMEN BEING JAILED, THEN TOLD THAT IF THEY EVER PROTEST AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE RAPED (and that was the police that said they would rape; link is here : http://roblosricos.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/toronto-police-threaten-to-rape-women-protesters-during-g20-summit/ )!!! LET'S KILL 'EM ALL!!!!!!!!!