Monday, June 09, 2008

Climate change hots up

As we all know, some people like to take a hard line on catastrophic anthropogenic climate change; take, for instance, Sunny Hundal over at Comment Is Free II Liberal Conspiracy.
Climate Change deniers are fuckwits. They deserve all the abuse. I’m all for it.

Oh, and here's Sunny "I have no scientific qualifications whatsoever" Hundal again, in the same thread.
[Climate sceptics are] unlikely to realise the error of their ways even if you present them with all the evidence, and there is plenty of it.
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But most of the time, if we keep conceding ground just to try and show them the ‘error of their ways’, then its a battle already lost. And the environment is too important for that.

Indeed and, in Master Hundal's World of the Ad Hominem, the environment is far more important than the high food prices that are causing riots and deaths around the globe: full ahead with biofuels, Jeeves old chap, and bugger the poor and the starving, what what!

Meanwhile, back in the land of reality, EU Referendum presents a precis of the latest Booker column.
But, the things you will not hear from the BBC are: "Globally, 2008 significantly cooler than last year" or "Global temperatures dive in May".

Yet these have been the fare of numerous websites dealing with the issue, not least Watts Up With That which has been reporting the latest data from Dr Roy Spencer, formerly head of climate studies for Nasa.

Based on satellite and balloon temperature readings taken at various levels up to 135,000ft, the first item showed that global temperatures in the first months of 2008 were on average between 0.4 and 0.5 degrees Celsius lower than they were at the same time in 2007. The second said that temperatures in May again fell sharply, by nearly 0.2 of a degree, bringing the drop since January 2007 to 0.77 degrees.

In other words, writes Booker, in just 16 months we have seen global cooling greater than the 0.7 degrees net warming recorded by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for the whole of the 20th century. Yet it was on this figure more than anything else that the whole warmist theory has been based. Those IPCC computer models never predicted anything like this recent drop in temperatures.

So, whilst we sceptics look at the data and try to make sense of the entangling and varied "adjustments" and measurements—you might find this Register article on the strange variance of NASA's temperature measurements over the years rather interesting—the catastrophic AGW fans are, essentially, sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling, "la la la la! We can't hear you. La la la la..."

It's all slightly pathetic, really and they will look even more pathetic in twenty or more years' time when the course of the world incontrovertably shows that we sceptics were right and the pseudo-intellectual warmists were gullible tools of authoritarian governments and Daily Mail style scare-mongering. I hesitate to draw parallels with the "useful idiots" who supported the Communist USSR but...

And, in the meantime, solar cycle #24 continues to be worryingly overdue...

16 comments:

leg-iron said...

The whole global warming thing sounds like the standard 'conspiracy theorist' approach - if you don't believe then you must be a brainwashed sheep.

They don't feel the need to prove they're right, and anyone presenting proof they're wrong is obviously a Tool of the Establishment (Oh, man, you work for the Man, man).

These idiots are the delight of any government looking for new ways to tax us. As if tax will have any effect at all on 'global warming'.

Of course it won't. Yet when 'global warming' doesn't happen they can claim the taxes stopped it.

Is it really any different to, say, homeopathy? Or chucking balled up paper on the tracks in Surrey to keep the elephants off the rails?

As long as there are no elephants on the tracks, the paper balls have worked. As long as you don't get sick, the remedy works.

As long as the globe doesn't warm, the tax must be working. Of course, if the globe cools, there's no provision to give us money back.

It's all bollocks. Just another excuse to bleed more money from us all.

These idiots are probably the reason we're not allowed to carry knives, even though they're the best justification for carrying, and using, said knives.

Short knives. Followed by copious quantities of salt.

Ardy said...

Meh. Why beat about the bush - too many oiks in the world, if we kill them off we can use the resources that would otherwise have been devoted to the consumer culture to get off this ghastly little rock. Then it won't matter if the planet fries or freezes. :p

Frederick Davies said...

Global Warming: astrology for climatologists.

Anonymous said...

"It's all slightly pathetic, really and they will look even more pathetic in twenty or more years' time". Hmmm, not sure about that. The ultimate aim of the AGW cult is for not a lot to happen, temperature-wise, so they in 2028 they'll be claiming it was their plastic bag ban wot done it. (Whether anyone will be listening to them in the riot-torn ruins of the UK economy is a different question!).

Mark Wadsworth said...

0.7 degrees in one year? Fuck! Maybe there is such a thing as Global Cooling. Fuck, I hate the cold.

anthonynorth said...

Nice to see nothing changes. Has everyone forgotten that thing called dialogue?

Rob said...

"the pseudo-intellectual warmists were gullible tools of authoritarian governments and Daily Mail style scare-mongering"

Don't worry, in 20 years they will have moved onto another vehicle for introducing collectivism.

Dave said...

There's a compelling argument that says that the industrial output into the atmosphere for the last two centuries has prevented the return of the ice age.
Now, what would I prefer? My house under a glacier? Permafrost winters?
It may not affect the UK, but it sure as hell will affect the US/Canada

Dodgy Geezer said...

Devil, I don't think you understand Climate Science.

The way it works is this:

We're All DOOMED!!!! It you don't believe this you are a vicious fascist, and should have been strangled at birth (http://www.abc.net.au:80/science/planetslayer/greenhouse_calc.htm)

No one should examine any of our calculations - if you do you are a Traitor to Humanity, and we will run a Nurenburg Trial on you when we get into power. (http://gristmill.grist.org/print/2006/9/19/11408/1106?show_comments=yes)

Now, drink the Green Koolaid ...

Mike Rouse said...

Climate Change Terrorists is what I'd call them...

Henry Crun said...

Mike Rouse, there's a simpler term for the proponents of Global Warming: Fuckwits.

r.totale XIX said...

Fuck me you're using Christopher Booker to make your 'argument'. Lol.

Old Holborn - bitter and twisted said...

Do what I do.

Buy shares in Renewable Energy companies

Vestas Wind Turbines up 312% in 18 months.

vws.co

Sunny said...

Indeed and, in Master Hundal's World of the Ad Hominem, the environment is far more important than the high food prices that are causing riots and deaths around the globe: full ahead with biofuels, Jeeves old chap, and bugger the poor and the starving, what what!

This amuses me for two reasons.

Firstly, its as if you're hurt about all the ad hominems. Huh. Am I the master of ad hominems or you? c'mon now Chris, don't play your own abilities down!

Secondly, apparently I don't care enough about poor people! I don't care about the imporvished, and you're the bleeding heart lefty! That's very amusing.

I'm also assuming that when the poor brown people in foreign countries that you so care about see their crops destroyed or water levels rise thanks to climate change, then you'll be on hand to listen to their concerns.

Jones said...

"Evidence, and plenty of it.."

Like 'adjusted' temperature figures, faulty computer models that give the 'right' answers no matter what data is fed into them, falsified entries in Wikipedia, no accurate and observable increase in global temperature since 1998, sea levels not rising, Ice caps not really melting, Polar Bears not drowning... I think we've been here before.

Sunspot cycle 24 giveth, and sunspot cycle 24 taketh away. CO2 is good for plants, Ethanol biofuel production bad for people. Need we say more?

dr cromarty said...

I'm also assuming that when the poor brown people in foreign countries that you so care about see their crops destroyed or water levels rise thanks to climate change, then you'll be on hand to listen to their concerns.[Sunny Hundal]

(1) It's not going to happen because the AGW thesis is an evidence-lite shakedown act pushed by gullible fucks like you.

(2) Why are you only interested in the brown people, Sunny? There are lots of people in low lying areas of south east asia. You don't seem interested in them. Is it coz they is yellow? What about your fellow citizens in Essex? A bit too white for you, Sunny Jim?

(3) When we experience the next cyclical warm period, where will you be to aid these hypothetical drowning brown people? Out there with "Sunny's Humanitarian Rescue Boat"? I doubt it. More likely to be filling vast tracts of cyberspace with your usual shite, you vacuous, self-important fuck.