Thursday, April 24, 2008

Teachers' strike

Oh look! Another bunch of useless state employees are on strike. What a fucking surprise.
About a third of schools in England and Wales have been disrupted by the first national teachers' strike in 21 years.

The walkout by thousands of teachers has closed or partially closed up to 8,000 schools, forcing working parents to stay at home or find childcare.

And the children will actually have learned more today than they would otherwise do...
The National Union of Teachers (NUT) is staging more than 50 rallies, as members demand a 4.1% pay rise rather than the 2.45% on offer.

Look, you silly cunts, you aren't going to get 4.1% because there is nothing in the coffers. Quite apart from that, given the lack of educational attainment by state-school children, the simple fact is that you do not deserve any kind of pay rise.

If we had a voucher system, of course, this kind of shit wouldn't happen. And we shouldn't have a national fucking pay deal anyway.
Gordon Brown has described the strike as "unfortunate and regrettable".

Thank you. This has been stock reponse #832/08.

I am just wearied by these bastards...

20 comments:

Tomrat said...

I agree with you DK that the situation would all but disappear with a voucher system and limited (amounting to funding) state control on education, but a few points:

1. This strike covers on teachers alligned with the NUT union; no other union is taking part which is why only 8000 schools are closed.
2. The strike action was carried by vote based on only 24% of the total number of NUT members (http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/actually-the-nut-doesnt-want-to-go-on-strike/) - this is not so much the mouse roaring at the british government, but the ennui felt by many in the teaching profession who are taking a battering for the few extremists, unionists and downright shittest (there - it even got me swearing :-x).

To mention any vested interest I have in this my wife is a teacher - she is not striking as she is with NASUWT and was one of the majority in THAT union who took one look at the ballot and threw it in the bin, choosing not to get involved.

Whilst your point about failing standards is carried I wouldn't be so quick to judge the teachers themselves - especially considering that you had the benefit of being able to avoid such standards outright.

Just because the lunatics are running the asylum doesn't mean there isn't still some perfectly sane middle management; you'd be better directing your spleen venting towards the NUT, Gordo and his swaggering idiot labour cronies and the 24% of the teachers obviously either not in command of their senses to opt out and go private, not able, or are of the same statist creed to expect the world owes them a living.

Tomrat said...

Oh, and my wife is also covering a large proportion of her senior striking colleagues lessons and marking for the day, despite only being in her first fully qualified year.

the a&e charge nurse said...

We had a tense situation today when my 5yr old boy crossed the picket line.

Suprisingly, his teacher (lets call him Mr Chips) does not belong to a trotskyist militia, sorry, trades union, so couldn't stand firm with the rest of the cardigan wearers.

It was all very reminiscent of Jimmy McGoverns, "Dockers".
Remember the scene when the central character (played by Ricky Tomlinson) finally betrays his mates and crosses the picket line - McGovern infuses the complex motives for Tomlinsons descent into scabdom with his usual catholic neurosis (good vs evil, etc).

That scene (which actually had me blubbering) has always haunted me, perhaps because my Dad was a docker - anyway, I hope young charge nurse isn't too traumatised by the slight wavering of Mr Chips bottom lip this morning, or was it actually a sly twinkle in his eye ?

In any event surely Chips is worth his 4% given the heady responsibility of entertaining 20 odd pups five days a week - it's certainly more than their own mothers and fathers are willing to do, in many cases.

Roger Thornhill said...

National Pay Scales are irrational.

Teachers are professionals, not assembly line workers and even if they WERE, national pay scales would still be ridiculous.

Good ones should get more, bad ones shown the door. Expensive districts require higher pay, cheaper districts it is not so important. London teachers, I suspect, are very hard done by. The best person to decide what they are willing to spend on Teachers is the Headmaster in conjunction with the Governors. The teacher should be employed by the school, not Government. The utterly daft ratchet mentality of "minimum pay scales" just shows how daft they are.

The Conservative numptie on Daily Politics is in FAVOUR of such moonbattery. They are no better than Screw Labour.

We have this situation because of the de facto monopoly in Education. Monopolies are almost always bad for the consumer and in this case it most certainly is.

Patrick said...

Oh the dream of private schools running curriculums within a broad specification.. With vouchers for parents to top up as they wished on an education that actually meant something...

It all started going pants when they ditched O levels... After which we have had a steady stream of sociologist psychologist gunge from our crappy red brick universities slowly fucking the whole education system up the hershi highway..

It will only improve once we get it in the national psyche that education is for children!!... Not for a bunch of bully boy underrated teachers that pick their noses all day, dreaming of their next long vacation to Peru...

This is a dream mind, as to think this govt, for that matter any govt, giving up the pleasures of running the national curriculum is PURE fantasy... They love to indulge in their sadistic propaganda tool, called schooling....

Ahh... I'm off to puke....

julymorning said...

Listening to the radio this afternoon, I heard one young girl, being interviewed, declaim: 'These teachers should think about the students more. Year 10s have mock exams right now.'

I am a teacher (at a private girls' school), and it is exactly this sort of selfishness - this absolute belief that teachers are not fellow human beings worthy of respect - that drives teachers to go on strike. Generally I have no sympathy with teachers who demand more pay: the profession is already paid far better than it ought to be, considering that for every productive citizen a school turns out, ten more go on to be useless drains on the state. But dealing with little bitches like the one on the radio day in and day out is certainly enough to make any teacher consider his or her remuneration inadequate.

the a&e charge nurse said...

Ahh, yes Patrick, why isn't state education just like 'Dead Poets Society', earnest, fresh faced young idealists jumping up on the desk every five minutes shouting "captain my captain".

And why the unwavering belief in the magical powers of 'the voucher'.

Can vouchers cure alcoholic parents ?
Mental illness ?
Gang bangers ?
Racism ?
Divorce ?
Language barriers ?

"We" are the problem (most of the time) not the teachers.

Simple facts.
Children love to learn and thrive on attention - the nihilism is a consequence of parental disinterest (admittedly many parents are ground down by chronic economic hardship).
The overwhelming majority of children will do well (in state schools) when parents accept that THEY play a vital role in their childs educational development.

It's not rocket science, and has got fuck all to do with 'vouchers'.

JuliaM said...

"Can vouchers cure alcoholic parents ?
Mental illness ?
Gang bangers ?
Racism ?
Divorce ?
Language barriers ?"


Can teachers....?!?

"The overwhelming majority of children will do well (in state schools) when parents accept that THEY play a vital role in their childs educational development."

Or when we start to seriously question the suitability of some to actually be parents...

Trixy said...

All a bit 1970s to me. but that's the trouble when the rabble rousers pay the government.

Patrick said...

Ahh, My wonderful CHARGE NURSE... Come mop my brow... I don’t feel too good AFTER I just PUKED again!!

"We" are the problem (most of the time) not the teachers.'

What vial of poison have you taken that convinced you of everyone’s culpability for bad parents?

Interestingly, ONLY for the most time??

When would that be then?... Would that be the point when parents beat their children to an inch of their lives maybe?...

In answer to your disdain of vouchers... This allows the sensible parent an opportunity to put their child in a school of their choice... This would turn the table on the power teachers and schools currently possess...

Parents would suddenly possess the power to make or break a school... If the school is crap, well they get all the alchi parents kids who don’t give a shit... Or better still the school goes broke and closes...

SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE TO COMPETE FOR OUR BUSINESS!!

But more importantly good teachers get paid really well and the crap ones claim JSA...

I never really understand you poor lefties that seem to take on all the woes of the world on your shoulders... And at the same time manage to cripple yourself at the same time... You should get therapy for that self loathing you suffer from.

Rory Meakin said...

Some NUT spokesman filmed on Newsnight: "There is not a serious economist in the country who believes that inflation is caused by public sector wages. It's caused by energy prices, food prices, world markets."

How depressing.

Tomrat said...

Patrick and A&E,

A voucher system would work well with parent voter powers on schools in 2 ways - the schools would have to perform to parental need rather than government diktat, and the influx of money to good schools will starve the worse ones making the childrens parents irrelevent.

Having recently read freakonomics (a recent birthday present from my wife; a teacher) it make little difference what the parents "do" (in terms of help) and more what they "are" (sadly it really can be like polishing a turd). One constant factor is that good schools have an almost linear, quantitative quality of increasing the overall outlook of a child, especially in later years.

Thus any effect we would see from the voucher system would be slow at first but the long term effects would reverberate down the generations.

This is always the way with giving back power to the individual - the immediate effects are in most cases not clearly visible but in the longer term it is.

A&E,

We've had several decades of corrosive, statist centralised socialist dogma, dont you think its time we tried something new? (and tested as opposed to the next quick fix educators place their hopes on in vain).

wonkotsane said...

No money for English teachers but there is for Scottish ...

Rory Meakin said...

"Listening to the radio this afternoon, I heard one young girl, being interviewed, declaim: 'These teachers should think about the students more. Year 10s have mock exams right now.'

But dealing with little bitches like the one on the radio day in and day out is certainly enough to make any teacher consider his or her remuneration inadequate."

Teachers are quite right to go on strike. The system is set up to allow them to do so. We pay them supposedly to get kids educated. But the quid pro quo of that is they work in order to line their pockets, not help the bitches with their mock exams. If we set up the law to enable them to the cunts to gang up with each other and bully us into giving them more they deserve, what the fuck else do we expect other than them to ruthelessly take every advantage of that?

The problem is that strikers are given legal protection from the consequences of their action. End the protection from termination of contracts for breach of contracts and the problem is solved. Don't get in a huff when people start breaching their contracts when they are legally protected from the consequences of their actions.

Patrick said...

Rory meakin

Of course public sector wages increase inflation... Where do you think the wages come from?

The printing press at the bank of england of course..

Energy prices are controlled by the market of supply and demand... Inflation affects it, but the cause? No way...

Its govt's that create inflation...

Anonymous said...

Patrick, take a look at the pair of little lines below:

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They are called a quotation mark. We use them on either side of text to indicate that we are quoting the words of someone else when writing the words between the two quotation marks.
(Rory Meakin)

Anonymous said...

Patrick, take a look at the pair of little lines below:

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They are called a quotation mark. We use them on either side of text to indicate that we are quoting the words of someone else when writing the words between the two quotation marks.
(Rory Meakin)

John Trenchard said...

i'm weary of the voucher idea - what's needed is full on privatisation, with entrance exams and scholarships, and NO catchment areas.


that would shake things up a bit.

Patrick said...

John,

i couldnt agree more...
In fact whilst we're doing that we might as well abolish the govt too... :-)

Sorry Rosy I was letting my passion outa the bag...

Anonymous said...

Think nothing of it, Patricia.

(Rory Meakin)