Thursday, January 17, 2008

Harmonisation by stealth

As you know, I am—amongst many other things—a minarchist, which Wikipedia defines thusly [Emphasis mine]:
In civics, minarchism, sometimes called minimal statism or small government, is the view that the size, role and influence of government in a free society should be minimal—only large enough to protect the liberty and property of each individual.

That means that the government should only handle Defence—the protection of individuals from aggressor nations—and Criminal Justice—the protection of individuals from other individuals.

It should come as no surprise that the bloated, interfering, illiberal, wage-stealing, theiving, corrupt piece of shit state that we are all now forced to endure is not my ideal; however, one would have thought that this massive state would—as well as interfering in the minutiae of our lives—at least be able to do the very basics: you would have thought that it would at least be able to protect the individuals under its care from injustice and appropriation by foreign powers.

Ha! I refer you to Kylie Minogue's first big hit. Because, you see, we're part of the EU now and protecting their fat fucking perks and salaries is more important to our politicos than protecting the citizens of this country.
Fair trial campaigners have given warning that there will be miscarriages of justice under European Union plans to hand over Britons tried and convicted in absentia by foreign courts.

Proposals, to be agreed by Baroness Scotland QC, the Attorney-General, at a meeting of EU justice ministers next week, enshrine "procedural" guidelines setting out the circumstances for quick extradition of people convicted in their absence.

A draft text, seen by The Daily Telegraph, notes that existing rules do not "deal consistently with the issue of judgments rendered in absentia". "This diversity complicates the work of the practitioner and hampers judicial co-operation," it states.

Human rights and civil liberties campaigners fear the new EU rules breach a fundamental principle of British justice: that defendants must have their day in court to defend themselves.

Britain does not convict people or hold trials in their absence but many EU countries, including Belgium, France, Spain Greece and Italy, do so on a regular basis.

David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said: "This is another disturbing development from Brussels. Extradition of British nationals to face prison in European jails, based on trials in absentia, would undermine fundamental principles of British justice."

The correct response should, of course, be, "fuck off! Get your grubby, shitty little hands off our citizens." As Timmy says,
No, not having this. It may be true that our Continental cousins are quite happy to bang someone up without hearing their side of the story, without even informing them that a trial is taking place. We do not do this and there is no way we should start to do so…nor allow and facilitate the banging up of Britons by said Continental cousins.

One of the first duties of the State is to protect the rights of the citizenry, this is an obvious breach of said rights.

Bugger off.

These people are absolute turds: the EU are totalitarian fucks, and our government are spineless, totalitarian fucks. Welcome to the stealth "harmonisation" of our Common Law with the EU corpus juris. We are going to regret this, you know.

I hate them all so very, very much.

20 comments:

Ed said...

Aren't the rights to know the case against you and to defend yourself legal requirements? Perhaps even under the ECHR/HRA?

Rob said...

"This diversity complicates the work"

Shit, I thought diversity was always a good thing? Will the person who wrote this soon become an unperson because of their unwise use of the Holy Word?

Newmania said...

Locomotion was quite a big hit wasn`t it ?...Oh yes otherwise quite so DK quite so...

verity said...

I hate them,too, DK,but then I expect to hate socialists/Trots/Marxists and I expect to regard illiberal jurisprudence in Europe with contempt.

What irks is, I also loathe the Opposition. In today's set-up, I am bereft of anyone to trust or even like slightly. Or even respect a tiny bit.

Cameron is one of them and is just being a good, cooperative boy waiting to get his feet under the top table. He's a superior, smirking, know-it-all, pedestrian, vacuuous prat. In that sense, he's more reprehensible and loathable than Brown, who we expect to be an authoritarian, heavy-fisted communist because he is exactly what it says on the socialist tin.

Cameron's treacherous.

Mark Wadsworth said...

Doesn't have the right ring to it, though, does it?

I am a minarchist!
I am the Minty Christ!
I know what I want but I don't know how to get it
I don't want to be destroyed by a passer-by
'Cause I ... wanna be ... minarchy!

Newmania said...

Cameron is only treachorous if you are an anarchist if you are a Conservative then he is consistent and has added a zesty Lemon freshness to the grand tradition of Conservatism .
He does have that tiresome business of getting elected to consider as well and dare I suggest that even the Minachists of the world might want to amend presentation a little.


As I greatly enjoy reminding young Mr. Kitchen vote UKIP , get Brown , Vote Clegg , get Brown , vote anyting but Cameron..........all together now ....get Brown.It is time to leave childish things behind , time to commence that great spiritual migration from youthful libertarianism into mature Conservatsim.


...but then I needn`t pry into what may take place in the quiet confessional of the voting booth....I trust all will do the righ thing confronted with the possibility of a thousand year Reich of centre left governments under PR

Anonymous said...

Why does everyone think Guido Fawkes AKA Paul Staines is a neutral. Guido Fawkes is an extreme right winger.

His recent castigation of anti racist campaigner Mr Hain is a sign of what he hates. Hain sacrificed his security against a brutal state to fight for democracy for blacks in south Africa. Fawkes despises him for that.

He joined the Young Conservatives whilst at University.

Here is the real facts about Fawkes

Having joined the Federation of Conservative Students, he described his politics as "Thatcher on drugs".

Staines worked as 'foreign policy analyst' for the extreme right wing Committee for a Free Britain, a right wing Conservative pressure group, alongside David Hart. Staines acted as editor of 'British Briefing' a long standing publication that sought to "smear Labour MPs and left leaning lawyers and writers".

He does the same now but claims he is neutral. Funny how he nevers insults the tories bosses infact seems to let them of the hook. I am sure you can see he is no neutral. He is no neutral but wait the later points are even worse. .

Staines relates of his work with the Committee: in the book

(1998). Altered State: The Story of Ecstasy Culture and Acid House, 2nd edition, London: Serpent's Tail. ISBN 1-85242-604-7. —

"I was lobbying at the Council of Europe and at Parliament; I was over in Washington, in Jo'burg, in South America. It was 'let's get guns for the Contras', that sort of stuff. I was enjoying it immensely, I got to go with these guys and fire off AK-47s. I always like to go where the action is, and for that period in the Reagan/Thatcher days, it was great fun, it was all expenses paid and I got to see the world. I used to think that World Briefing was a bit funny. The only scary thing about those publications was the mailing list - people like George Bush - and the fact that Hart would talk to the head of British Intelligence for an hour. I used to think it was us having a laugh, putting some loony right-wing sell in, and that somebody somewhere was taking it seriously. You've got to understand that we had a sense of humor about this."

The CFB invited Adolfo Calero, the Nicaraguan Contra leader, to visit the UK.

What kinf of sickoe works with the contras and supplies gunsot them.

In a November 1984 report the Sandinista government alleged since 1981 the Contras had assassinated 910 state officials; attacked nearly 100 civilian communities; caused the displacement of over 150,000 people from their homes and farms; and damaged or destroyed bridges, port facilities, granaries, water and oil deposits, electrical power stations, telephone lines, saw mills, health centers, schools and dams.

A Sandinista militiaman interviewed by The Guardian stated Contra rebels committed these atrocities against Sandinista prisoners after a battle at a Sandinista rural outpost:

Rosa had her breasts cut off. Then they cut into her chest and took out her heart. The men had their arms broken, their testicles cut off. They were killed by slitting their throats and pulling the tongue out through the slit. Fawkes must be so proud. So think of that when you read his blog.

What kind of sickoe thinks it is fun to support sick creeps like the contras.

The CFB launched a number of policy campaigns and initiatives during 1988. It also supported the Community Charge (Poll Tax).

In time for the October 1988 Conservative Party Conference, the CFB published a British Foreign Policy - The Case for Reform, featuring a photo on the front cover of Foreign Secretary Geoffrey Howe giving the clenched fist salute at a meeting in southern Africa. In the pamphlet's conclusion it stated "The Foreign Office is one of the last of the great institutions to escape the refreshing breath of Thatcherism." Howe maintained he had not been giving a black power salute.



So now we see why fawkes despises hain. Re,ber he was a foreign policy analyst..

anthonynorth said...

I'd argue two other responsibilities of a State - to know what is going on in the world (diplomatic corps), and a minimum safety net for unemployment/illness/poverty. Not only would you never get rid of this requirement, we no longer live in the Dark Ages.
As for laws, none should apply in a State unless made by its sovereign, representative government. Come out of the EU, I say, and embrace, again, the Commonwealth.

verity said...

Anonymous 2:48 - thanks for the laughs. Your best joke was having the notion that anyone would read past the first couple of paragraphs of your illiterate moon battery.

Just a word in your ear: Anyone who gathered, from reading his blog, that Guido Fawkes/Paul Staines is posing as a neutral needs a brain scan.

He's a right winger. Not an "extreme" right winger.

Thatcher! The most powerful word of contumely in your tiny political universe! Put on your little Ché T-shirt and gaze at yourself admiringly in the mirror. Ché was an extreme left winger. Actually, unlike Mrs Thatcher, he was an extreme murderer of children. Pol Pot was extreme left, too. He murdered millions. So was Mao Tse-Tung. Actually, he murdered millions, as well. So was Hitler. Actually, he ... So was Uncle Joe Stalin. Actually, errr.... Have I left any of your heroes out?

Peter Hain is an extreme prat and a deeply dishonest extreme left limpet.

You are a member of the Extreme Lack of Originality, Literacy or Scintilla of Detectable Intelligence Party.

Morgoth said...

I know this is off-topic, but just for yer future reference DK, in case you're ever tempted, Spanking-Boy Hundal has started wielding the delete key over at PP to stealth delete any comments (primarily, but not exclusively, mine) that don't meet the approved Hundal-line. Doesn't matter if they're relevant or topical to the subject matter at hand, *whoosh* they're gone if they don't conform to the Fabianista/BBC Shibolleths that the wee fellow holds dear to his poor wee racist heart.

Little Black Sambo said...

Anon. 2.48. Your method of argument is remarkably like that of some one called Jimbo. You have a lot in common; you two should get together some time.
(Word verification ikinlbbc - what is that trying to tell me?)

Little Black Sambo said...

I meant ikonlbbc

Budgie said...

Newmania said:
"vote anything but Cameron...all together now ....get Brown"

Not true.

Cameron cannot expect the EU to dance to Tory wishes unless he offers something irresistable - or threatens to leave (and means it).

He has nothing to offer - and won't threaten to leave. Cameron is stuck with an unworkable policy.

For this issue (leaving the EU) voting Cameron means you get Brown ('s policy).

JuliaM said...

"Hain sacrificed his security against a brutal state to fight for democracy for blacks in south Africa. Fawkes despises him for that."

Ha ha ha ha! I can see why you post as 'anonymous'....

"Hundal has started wielding the delete key over at PP to stealth delete any comments...that don't meet the approved Hundal-line."

Unsurprising. You can see by his occasional CiF columns that he is completely unable to withstand critisism and counter-argument. A classic example of the pundit bred under the Nu Labour brand...

Mark Wadsworth said...

As to this "Vote A, get B" nonsense, my take is "Vote anything you fucking well like*, you'll still be ruled by the EU".

* Except maybe UKIP. Unlikely they'll form the next government though.

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Kay Tie said...

"Aren't the rights to know the case against you and to defend yourself legal requirements? Perhaps even under the ECHR/HRA?"

Indeed:

http://www.echr.coe.int/Eng/Press/2006/March/GrandChamberjudgmentSejdovicvItaly10306.htm

Hence it appears the right to a retrial is not one the New Labour Government will be granting us (oh thank you so much), but one that the ECJ granted us several years ago.

Roger Thornhill said...

We should not need the ECHR/HRA to protect our freedoms that we have already had for centuries!

Stuff the ECHR!

Stuff the HRA!

Talk about lowest common denominator! Oh, forgot - they are Socialists, so levelling DOWN is their raison d'etre!

Anonymous said...

3:08 You shut your face.

verity said...

The Daily Mail reports that a judge has warned that an obsession with "rights" has created a society bedevilled by feral youth. The "rights" of course, derive from the Manatee's human rights milch cow.

The judge recommended a form of national service whereby young people would be forced to acknowledge, through living with them in a hard environment, the rights of others and their own responsibilities.

Right on cue, the loathesome David Cameron has given us the benefit of his thoughts: "The Tory leader said he envisaged 16-year-olds undertaking a six-week residential programme in which they would mix with people from different backgrounds."

That's IT!!!! Sixteen year olds need to learn about DIVERSITY!

Why doesn't this man shut up? Every time he opens his mouth, stupidities fly out like bats out of a cave.