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Saturday, September 22, 2007

New Labour's Consultation Process on closure of NHS District General Hospitals

Posted by Katy Newton at 9/22/2007 12:37:00 PM

Just when I thought I'd finally run out of goats, my attention is drawn to this post by Dr Ray about the consultation process for NHS District General Hospital closures.

A few weeks ago invitations to attend a public consultation were sent to consultants at our Trust. We were only given one day to reply for the meeting in the near future even though we have to give 6 weeks notice of leave because of "choose and book".

Obviously this meant that most of us could not attend but one consultant did take up the invitation.

The location of the meeting was kept secret until three days before the event and when this consultant was eventually told the location and turned up in Birmingham for the "Citizens Jury" it turned out that medical staff were outnumbered 2:1 by laypeople specifically chosen by an agency to attend the event. The media were present and had obviously been invited to publicise the event.


You'll be astonished to hear that the voting was almost entirely 2:1 in favour of Government policy! Who saw that coming? But wait - you haven't heard the punchline yet!

Following the "consultation" the medical delegates were told to leave but the other 2/3 of the audience were kept back and each given an envelope. My colleague was intrigued by this and managed to catch one of the "chosen ones" and ask about the contents. Each envelope contained £75 in cash!


Well, I can't tell you what to think; I don't have that sort of ready cash. But I will tentatively suggest that if you're in the mood to get angry about something this is probably something worth getting very angry about. Why not read the whole thing?

(via Dr Rant)

(NB: It occurs to me that the £75 may be described as expenses, in the same way as jurors in a criminal trial are permitted limited expenses. I don't know whether jurors in criminal trials get as much as £75 a day, but my point is that I would be less concerned about the £75 if it wasn't for the shameless rigging of the procedure to ensure that virtually none of the medical staff invited to the "consultation" could actually attend it, and the presence of a "minder" to provide "helpful suggestions" to those laypersons who were having trouble deciding how to vote.)

Posted by Katy Newton at 9/22/2007 12:37:00 PM


11 Blogger Comments:

Blogger Alan Douglas said...

Katy, you never will run out of goats while we are confined in this nanny (and billy/bully) NuLiebour state.

I knew these bastards aredevious, but this is getting beyond the point of acceptability. I hope any other professionals attendingwill be able to ask how many people there are getting paid, and what for.

Alan Douglas

9/22/2007 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the corruption of government is obvious at every level. when will a senior judge or policeman stand up and do their job. nuliebour is in danger of destroying the entire system of government in this country. i am sick to death of the endless stories of taxpayers cash being used to decieve the public and to further the ends of these duplicitous bastards.

if anyone in a position to do something is listening then please act......before we end up with a one party state

9/22/2007 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start one of those PM's online petition things. Let them know they've been rumbled.

9/22/2007 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous assegai mike said...

Just another step in the Mugabe-fication of Britain, I'm afraid.

9/22/2007 06:27:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Wadsworth said...

That is frightening and depressing, if I ever summon up the strength I'll follow the link.

9/22/2007 09:10:00 PM  
Blogger Roger Thornhill said...

This sort of "enforced agreement" is seen both in Communist/totalitarian societies and in the more incompetent and decadent corporate entities.

Of course, if a corporate wants to delude itself, the customer will eventually rumble their incompetence and denial of reality and vote with their wallets.

We do not have the option of doing the same with the NHS. With government, we are lumbered with the pathetic choices of millions of others and even our own when we are forced to lump all our trade-offs into one cross on a slip.

Democracy of the wallet, the head and of the heart every day, every pay packet, every deal and every journey should be our way.

Bad healthcare provider - change insurance company. Bad school - change it. Bad broadband, phone, car, clothes, shoes, meal, coffee, milk. We change if we are not happy with it.

The NHS has a captive audience, so this kind of delusion, which is more laughable in the private sector, is deadly serious when in a State monopoly. Fact is, such behaviour happens. The issue is one of how we can enable people to avoid, reject and ignore it instead of being force-fed it like some hapless goose in a fois gras farm.

9/23/2007 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like Labour Filth™ are using one of the Rand corporations old techniques to distort democracy. Interesting that they ascribe minders. See the article below and it all makes sense. Know your enemy.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Delphi_Technique.htm

At what point can we start shooting the F*ckers?

9/23/2007 09:26:00 PM  
Blogger The Remittance Man said...

One of the defining characteristics of Third World banana republics is that "spontaneous crowds of supporters" are bussed in whenever some party hack is about to speak.

Of course it would be rude in the extreme to link Mr Bown and ZanuLabour with such practices.

But if it looks like a pig, grunts like a pig and stinks like a pig it becomes very hard for the uninformed to make the distinction.

9/24/2007 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Remittance Man said...
One of the defining characteristics of Third World banana republics is that "spontaneous crowds of supporters" are bussed in whenever some party hack is about to speak.

Sounds naive I know but I never thought we'd see that in England.
I remember well the images of bussed in mobs in media footage from the USSR and Serbia. It just shows that the sweaties AND EU are capable of.

9/24/2007 04:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Letters From A Tory said...

An absolute disgrace. Why aren't the Conservatives stamping their feet about this and letting the public know that Labour spin is alive and well?

9/24/2007 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger Dr Ray said...

The Dept of Health has now admitted selective payments of £75 cash in envelopes so that part of the story is confirmed (link on my blog) Two consultants on Doctors.net.uk (restricted access) have confirmed they only had 24 hours notice to attend meeting. We just need to find out how the lay jurors were selected but, now they have had their cash they can disappear into the crowd without a trace, so we might never know.

9/25/2007 11:57:00 PM  

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